North American Union? F*ck that

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Oh okay. So what you are saying is that everytime I humor a conspiracy theorist be delving deeper in their claims, only to find out that they have strecthed the truth beyond recognition or just flat out lied, what I have really discovered is a "false" theory planted by the evil ones themselves. Interesting.

Yes. And if you seek to disprove the theory but offering evidence...such as mathematical models to disprove their claims on the distribution of wealth, they already have that covered as well.

This somewhat reminds me of the Bible in that if you look hard enough...it covers everything...

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

It probably does, he just failed to copy/paste that part.

So it isn't an idea he came up with on his own?

I don't come up with a vast number of ideas, but I do use knowledge about one thing, combined with knowledge about another, to try to create unique ideas.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Of course not. Do you really think you're debating with a single individual? HAHA
You're debating with Google.

Oh.

I am an individual with individual ideas...well, I guess it would be wrong to say my ideas are individual either...it is based on knowledge from a variety of areas and personal experienes. I don't think I am a revolutionary, or will ever create a revolutionary idea....but I also don't think I will fall in line to this vast conspiracy either.

And furthermore, what's wrong with complacency? My parents have not a care in the world about monetary policy, international economics, or structured finance. They watch American Idol and go out to eat on the weekends. I bet $100 that they will die happier than I will.

 

[LouDEnougH? 10+ year member]

Well, there has to be some mechanism for rankings...I feel income and potential income is about as good as any.
I am not a fan of socialism. I would rather see a country where some have much and some have none versus everyone having little. Otherwise, the incentives are gone. I study economics to make more money, I work hard to make more money. I try to improve my station in life to acquire more things. If there was no incentive to acquire things, why would I work at all?

I understand this, working hard trying to improve your status. I agree 100%. but giving someone power because they control money is just stupid in my eyes. what i mean by this is... say a millionaire kills some one and a poor man kills someone, who has the better chance of getting off or a lower sentence?

Flip whats your thoughts on income tax and IRS being abolished? just wondering.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

It just depends on what you're considering evidence. You types don't consider non-official websites/people as evidence, whereas most of us conspiracy theorists know that the "official" sites and government offices are part of the conspiracy. So the 2 can never go together, until something happens where you finally disbelieve the government/official sources as a valid source of truth. As flip is educated by them, that's not going to happen, til something happens where he does some research himself to realize that they lie. Like perhaps 911. But until the time is spent doing the research himself, he's going to continue to believe what he's told to believe.
Here's some interesting info on the moon landing though:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

Even wikipedia's article provides enough to make you wonder:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_accusations

Jesus, even searching for the links I notice now google has a TON of websites to counter the moon landing hoax evidence. You can't even hardly find it anymore...

I sincerely hope that you are sitting back and having a good laugh over this. You can't possibly believe this shit.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

It just depends on what you're considering evidence. You types don't consider non-official websites/people as evidence, whereas most of us conspiracy theorists know that the "official" sites and government offices are part of the conspiracy. So the 2 can never go together, until something happens where you finally disbelieve the government/official sources as a valid source of truth. As flip is educated by them, that's not going to happen, til something happens where he does some research himself to realize that they lie. Like perhaps 911. But until the time is spent doing the research himself, he's going to continue to believe what he's told to believe.
Here's some interesting info on the moon landing though:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

Even wikipedia's article provides enough to make you wonder:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_accusations

Jesus, even searching for the links I notice now google has a TON of websites to counter the moon landing hoax evidence. You can't even hardly find it anymore...

I hardly consider what you are doing to be research.

I also fail to understand how you can claim that my research is invalid and yours is valid...yeah, you researched alright...you spent 30 minutes on google.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

why the hell is dam_n censored but not shit?

George W. (and those who he works for) directed Goob to enact censorship rules that are whacked. Ever wonder why one day Goob is all for instating new mods and the next he just forgets the whole thing? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

See, this is my exact point. Instead of typing "GOYIM" into google and finding out for yourself what it means, you ask me what it means, and then don't even bother to look it up. That right there is why people like you will never know the truth. Because you would rather believe "established authority" than look up the truth for your **** self. And that's the troof!

I asked you because I would expect the one presenting such a theory to be able to tackle any and all questions pertaining to such a theory.

I advocate certain theories, and I recieve PMs from time to time asking me to elaborate on them. I do not see the difference between you telling me and me finding the same god damn site you found.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I understand this, working hard trying to improve your status. I agree 100%. but giving someone power because they control money is just stupid in my eyes. what i mean by this is... say a millionaire kills some one and a poor man kills someone, who has the better chance of getting off or a lower sentence?
Flip whats your thoughts on income tax and IRS being abolished? just wondering.

The millionaire has more access to capital and means of production. More people in the economy is dependant on his well being versus the poor man.

Secondly, I support the fair tax. While it isn't fair by any means, I am better able to exploit it because I am better able then most to limit consumption and therefore limit taxation.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Why? Because it sounds outlandish, or because you have direct evidence proving it did happen?
Just because it appears to be true doesn't make it true you know. Have you done any research? See this is what I mean. Yes, everyone KNOWS the moon landing happened, but obviously none of us have been there, so how do you KNOW for sure? You don't, you trust the media and the government not to lie to you about it.

If I poasted from the moon, would you stfu?

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Why? Because it sounds outlandish, or because you have direct evidence proving it did happen?
Just because it appears to be true doesn't make it true you know. Have you done any research? See this is what I mean. Yes, everyone KNOWS the moon landing happened, but obviously none of us have been there, so how do you KNOW for sure? You don't, you trust the media and the government not to lie to you about it.

Because it is an absolutely retarded theory dreamed up by geeks who long for the days when they used to sit around playing Dungeons and Dragons.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Sorry for talking shit. My point is, I could tell you what it means, but it might not even be correct. So the only REAL way to know what it is for sure would be to look it up. I could tell you that GOYIM means "poor people" and you would end up believing it and then discounting or believing my theory based upon that.
I'm just saying, it takes hundreds of hours of research to find the truth and until people really get curious enough to know that kind of research never happens. The people in charge are doing it that way on purpose. They indoctrinate us into believing a whole shitton of stuff that isn't true, and then when one thing finally comes out it isn't believed because that would make 100 other things also not true, and it just can't be possible that we were lied to our whole lives, so that people just disbelieve it, rather than DO THE RESEARCH THEMSELVES TO FIND OUT IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT.

And that's the problem.

So, if I do a google search for GOYIM, how does one determine the accuracy of that site? Do more research? And then research those site? And then those sites?

You would be like a dog chasing its tail.

I guess we could get into a philosophical debate on knowledge and how we "know what we know"....which always end up with something along the lines of having any knowledge is impossible...but that doesn't line up with your "truth" now does it?