theMessenjah44
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Just came out last week. Bob said the main upgrades were a wider basket and bigger spider. These seem 10x stiffer than the HD 12 I bought new a couple years ago
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i didnt kno that...could it be the same chinese build house?american bass = chineese bass
all of there subs have been exact copys
sounds about right with what Bob told meHDC's are getting new baskets - Car Audio Classifieds
So... something like this ?