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I would not get a new DSP for them. Simply add enough amplifiers to connect each "corner". Then proceed to splice from the 3-way's feed, according to what each speaker is. 40mm head speakers seem to be tweeters, so I would splice from the tweeter's signal, et cetera.The song comes from a Disney movie Encanto and my 5 year old LOVES that movie. I am just happy we are no longer in the Baby Shark phase!
Gotcha. They didn't say it was "the only way" but they did push it above anything else they floated around after looking at my setup. I do want the best/most customized setup possible, so I am okay with the Virtuoso even though it is about 4x the cost of the JL.
They have a guy there and all he does is tune cars and has been trained to setup the bit one HD among others. I (think) I have confidence in him being able to tune the vehicle correctly.
Could the installers turn the "volume" down on all of those stock speakers? They sit within 6 inches of your ear and most of the time (after the first after market sound system install) I can hear them MORE than any other speaker in the car. They come through "first"...it is cool when I am listening to a podcast (makes it feel much more "full") but when it is music, the speakers are now more of a distraction, rather than helping "fill" the sound in the cabin.
I will speak with the installers and see what my options are.
I did a quick google search on "coloring" sound...follow up question. What if they say "yes"? Is that a good thing? Should I ask them to "color" it if they say no? This is a whole new thing to me, so can you give me a quick "coloring for dummies" so I better understand what I want/or don't want? I assume I do not want any "coloring" done?
SO...Lets go a little crazy (on paper anyway)...assume I have the space (because I kinda do)...
There are 4 sets of speakers in the ceiling above each persons head (dual 40mm speakers)
There are 2 sets of speakers in the very back (25mm tweet & 80mm mid)
There is 1 set in the front center dash (25mm & 2x100mm - these have already been upgraded)
How would you power these speakers? How would you DSP them?
There are 7 cables that would need to be run at minimum (1 cable for each "set")
Would you choose to run 7 cables into an 8ch amp and then to a bit One (8 port version)
Coloring means the speaker's design adds it's own signature sound to you music. A cheap speaker may sound tiny, muffled, echoey, or any other descriptive word. As you have stated, the OEMs color your music by being out of sync with the new system.coloring"
Fingers crossed cause I checked your reciept.... they were euphemistically dumb.They have a guy there and all he does is tune cars and has been trained to setup the bit one HD among others. I (think) I have confidence in him being able to tune the vehicle correctly.
I then assume you have not heard the rebassed or metal versions of it. They were a great compromise between father and child.I am just happy we are no longer in the Baby Shark phase!
Those installers did not know what they were doing. They installed an Active LOC (LPA-e4), which is great for Plain Jane OEM radios, but not upgraded ones. Then added a cheaper Passive LOC (LP5-2) which again, Plain Jane radios. I assume this is for the thunder. Now, here is the kicker. They installed an Mosconi DSP (Digital Sound Processor) amplifier. It has an built in Active LOC. But, it does not have Signal Leveller. When you get the Virtuoso, it will make this amp obsolete, totally. Best bet is to add other Mosconi non-DSP amplifiers. You can eliminate both LPA-e4 and LP5-2, and disable all the Mosconi's features.Here is the original invoice...View attachment 36156
I would not get a new DSP for them. Simply add enough amplifiers to connect each "corner". Then proceed to splice from the 3-way's feed, according to what each speaker is. 40mm head speakers seem to be tweeters, so I would splice from the tweeter's signal, et cetera.
It is always pleasant to hear an update. Sound deadening definitely helps you hear all the nuances that your speakers can produce, including getting rid of the echoey sound you now hear. I am not sure what is the incorrect way of installing Dynamat. I have seen guys do the entire skin while others do only the largest flat panels. They both sounded clean to me.Thoughts?
The new installer explained that the "right" way to do it would be to disassemble the door mechanism to allow access to the panel behind the "guts" of the door.I am not sure what is the incorrect way of installing Dynamat
Yeah, I am curious to see what they sound like when they are changed out. The Mosconi is a 4x100w and the Jl is 4x150 so there is a decent amount of power that is being added (right?)...maybe that is why he thinks he can get a better sound? He also made mention of the Mosconi's doing some weird things if the power dips on them at all (if the bass hits and takes power away). Where the JL's were solid no matter what the sub was doing...again, might just be a preference thing but I am at his mercy at this point. He has done a good job so far so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.but to claim they will sound better than the Mosconis is a tall order.
This might be a blesssing in disguise. No telling what issues you'd be having if they'd disassembled.The new installer explained that the "right" way to do it would be to disassemble the door mechanism to allow access to the panel behind the "guts" of the door.
Yes, you can never have too much power.there is a decent amount of power that is being added (right?).
This is odd, more so because they are Class D design. They should not be sensitive to power fluctuations. Then again I have only heard but never owned a Mosconi, so I've no idea how they behave.He also made mention of the Mosconi's doing some weird things if the power dips on them at all (if the bass hits and takes power away). W
I have a few JL Audio products and just love the performance of them all. I honestly think that I will no longer shop other brands for my car audio fix. As for your current installer, seems like no need to doubt his expertise. His work speaks volumes. I am glad you are just about done. As for myself, like most others on this site, will probably be tweaking till our bodies can no longer get up off the floorboard!Where the JL's were solid no matter what the sub was doing...again, might just be a preference thing but I am at his mercy at this point. He has done a good job so far so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.