I need advice

[fa5chups]

Thanks for replies! Let me deal with them in order.
1. Yes, I run them from aftermarket HU, Pioneer 3800. I believe it has sufficient power and I don't listen at high volume.
2. I tried all combinations of HPF on front (and tweeters - thats how Toyota speakers are wired) and LPF on subwoofer, sometimes on and sometimes off. I wanted clarity in vocals and crystal clear highs, with emphasided bass. I believe that Focal tweeters (aluminium) were good for highs but vocal were a bit dim. With Pioneer TS 736-2, which are like more full small speakers, rather than just tweeters, I get strong mids, which probably overpower Focal midbass woofers.
3. At the end, since subwoofer has a hardware crossover at 90, I turned off software LPF on the HU. I turned on HPF on doors speakers at 80.
4. EQ was very important. I turned down midsection and made it more like V eq preset, with mids down and bass and highs up. In Pioneer, this is Powerful present eq. I think it sounds the best now. I decided to keep Pioneer tweeters so far. Pioneer has even better tweeters but they are expensive (300 dollars). So I keep 150 dollar Pioneer tweeters TS-736-2.

With this EQ adjustment, sound is quite good, especially male voices. Female are not as good but OK in general. I get good bass and good highs.
Hope this helps.

Don’t need expensive tweeters for sound quality and loudness, good mounting point and a voice amp will do more than upgrading

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Wrong thread

 

[fa5chups]

I'd start with a ho alt if that's the case

Ok 250a alt u think would be fine

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Should be plenty

 

[StoneJack]

That set of Carrozzeria tune up Pioneer 29mm alloy tweeters are pretty decent when tuned correctly. They are the same as the "Z" series tweeters in the U.S. component sets. As for using the passive versus active crossovers, depending on which crossovers you are talking about, it can make a very big difference on those tweeters. You could use a combination of passives and actives for midbass too.

That tweeter can get a bit unruly if not tamed/tuned correctly - the focal too.

The crossover that comes with the Pioneer TS-Z65CH is a lot better sounding than the ones that come with the the TS-Z65, and it is quite noticeable.

Crossover Frequency. 4500 Hz (Acoustic), 1900 Hz (Electric) is what pioneer indicates, I assume the electronic one is 24 Db,

My experience with them at 12 db is around 4k, so close to what they indicate. If you can cross them, electronically, at 12 db, 4-4.5K, that would be best. It's rare that p assives will sound better.

I think that's way complicated for me, so I will leave everything as of now, but thanks for the advice!