yeah man i really dont like salesmen, there some sneaky bastards, my mom was thinking about putting system in her car, so i took her to a shop and whe looked at some stuff and i suggested a w3v2(in stealth box in factory navigator location) and a arc audio amp, some stupid guy was like " i think a powerbass would be much better" what the hell is power bass?i saw them get a huge shiptment of that stuff in and hes just trying to push that product as much as he can, and then they tried to sell me a hifonics amp?(made by crunch?)i swear i hate those people.