Looking for new subs

[tooshort_128 10+ year member]

Looking for new subs for a new build in my truck. Subs will be in a F-150, under seat box with limited space and I'll have about 800rms to play with. I'm currently looking at either a pair of Sundown E-10's in close to 2 cubes at 35hz or a pair of 10" SD-3's in roughly 1.75cubes sealed. The main objective is a versatile system that can play most music and have good sq but still get low. B-stocks are probably the route I'll go and budget is roughly $150 per sub. What would you guys recommend?

Click to read more...

 

[Hertz Mafia]

* B-Stock* Sundown Audio SA-10 600W SA Series - Car Audio Bargain

I'd just do a single SA 10 ported in 2cubes on 800watts. Should be decent

 

[youdoofus]

Looking for new subs for a new build in my truck. Subs will be in a F-150, under seat box with limited space and I'll have about 800rms to play with. I'm currently looking at either a pair of Sundown E-10's in close to 2 cubes at 35hz or a pair of 10" SD-3's in roughly 1.75cubes sealed. The main objective is a versatile system that can play most music and have good sq but still get low. B-stocks are probably the route I'll go and budget is roughly $150 per sub. What would you guys recommend?

i dont think youre going to find anyone who will argue with your sub choice as sundown are pretty awesome especially the b stock for the price

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

2 E would be louder than 1 but in your case space is key those under seat boxes usually end up closer to 1.8cf., if u are building it that maybe different, if u doing that u maybe able to do a sa 12 if u can get 1.7cf ad if not do 10..

 

[tooshort_128 10+ year member]

I'm leaning toward doing the 2 E-10 in the ported box but wonder if they'll have close to as good SQ as people say the sd-3's do? I would get more output at a cheaper price but possibly at the expense of SQ which I'd like to retain.

 

[Kam311]

I would do a single sa 10 Ported. You won't have enough for two Ported e10's after all the displacements are taken into account. The sa is a beast

 

[youdoofus]

The new alphard machete sub's look pretty decent for the price

 

[tooshort_128 10+ year member]

Alright guys, so I think I'm changing plans slightly and want your input. I'm now leaning toward going sealed (for sq purposes) and going two 10's so I can still feel the lows. I'm also going to step up in power. Rather than doing a 5 channel amp, I'm doing a dedicated sub amp so power will jump up to roughly 1200rms. I'm thinking the 2 Sundown EV3 10's would do nicely in 1.75cf after displacement and 1200 watts. I was looking at 2 10" SD3's but not sure if it's worth the additional cost ($166 for 2 e10's or $320 for 2 sd3's).

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

Do the E's but port them to 30-32hz. Their recommended tuning is 32hz. If not the E's then do some Dayton 10s ported at 30hz.

 

[tooshort_128 10+ year member]

I'm not going to have sufficient airspace after sub and port displacement. That's why I'm just going sealed.

 

[Mayhem]

I'm not going to have sufficient airspace after sub and port displacement. That's why I'm just going sealed.

I'd get the two E-series. They perform well in sealed. Buddy of mine has a pair of e-12s in a sealed box and it plays really well.

Also just realized you're right around the corner from me. You're in sterling and I'm in gainesville.

 

[tooshort_128 10+ year member]

Nice! I'm passing through your area tomorrow to go to Sumerduck Dragway.

 

[Kam311]

Sq or not, I still say 1-sa Ported is where it's at. Tune it low and you will still have Sq, but you will also have bass that hits you in the chest from 20-50hz and can still handle the kicks with authority. The sa is a great sounding sub. The e series doesn't sound bad but there is a big difference.

I don't think a lot of people that say Sq really know what that means. You can have a system that sounds good and isn't anything Sq in that sense. Maybe sql is more what you are looking for, because if you are going for a true Sq system I don't think the e is even on the list. The sa has much better potential to sound good.

Sq people aren't looking for heavy paper cones with oversized motors typically.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Alright guys, so I think I'm changing plans slightly and want your input. I'm now leaning toward going sealed (for sq purposes) and going two 10's so I can still feel the lows. I'm also going to step up in power. Rather than doing a 5 channel amp, I'm doing a dedicated sub amp so power will jump up to roughly 1200rms. I'm thinking the 2 Sundown EV3 10's would do nicely in 1.75cf after displacement and 1200 watts. I was looking at 2 10" SD3's but not sure if it's worth the additional cost ($166 for 2 e10's or $320 for 2 sd3's).

lmao horrible idea with sealed especially in a truck. You'll just lose out on both sound quality and output, you dont realize how fast sealed boxes drop off with the lows in a truck, you'll just be missing a lot of bass notes which means NOT sound quality. Plus the E series ARE NOT MEANT for sealed, they werent built that way. so thats TWO horrible reasons not to go sealed, Vehicle acoustics and driver parameters.

In an SUV or a trunk with a higher resonant frequency and longer cabin, it would be almost workable but in a smaller cabin like a truck with a much higher resonant frequency, good luck getting lows.

 

[Kam311]

lmao horrible idea with sealed especially in a truck. You'll just lose out on both sound quality and output, you dont realize how fast sealed boxes drop off with the lows in a truck, you'll just be missing a lot of bass notes which means NOT sound quality. Plus the E series ARE NOT MEANT for sealed, they werent built that way. so thats TWO horrible reasons not to go sealed, Vehicle acoustics and driver parameters.
In an SUV or a trunk with a higher resonant frequency and longer cabin, it would be almost workable but in a smaller cabin like a truck with a much higher resonant frequency, good luck getting lows.

Good luck even getting bass at all. I use my truck as a test bench to test subs from time to time, usually to try out a box I build or test functionality and in sealed boxes it's like I don't even have a sub at all. Underwhelming would be an understatement of every sealed set up I've tested in my truck.

My first sub was a type r sealed and it was very meh, I didn't know any better. Once I traded the sealed box for a Ported on with the same sub and same power I nearly shat myself!!! That was the moments that I fell in love. My whole truck was shaking, my chest was heavy and I'll never go back.

In a trunk it's different, in a truck Ported is all there is.