Knukonceptz Karma SS speaker wire is the WORST. Don't use it.

[NeverEnuffBass 10+ year member]

ugh twisted wire sucks

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

i thought you KNU!

 

[bryce-man 10+ year member]

whats wrong with the KLM?

i have some.. havent installed it but its seems flexable enough .. i dont need to wrap it around my finger to be happy

 

[vandiar2 10+ year member]

Is that that AWFUL cca wire? that stuff bites. i had a friend buy it.. biggest waste of money EVER. he literally threw it away.

yes that wire is bull**** to work with. i have had the hardest time getting it in knu's fuse holders. i haven't ran the rca's yet i will this weekend. i will let yall know how that turns out. hopefully not as bad as some people say here. if so, then ill be calling knu too. after reading this thread.. i am losing confidence in their product.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Is that that AWFUL cca wire? that stuff bites. i had a friend buy it.. biggest waste of money EVER. he literally threw it away.

Yah, customer brought it to me to use with an install recently...

And even more of a pain b/c of the cold weather... the jacket and the wire itself are rigid and hard to work with.

Their fleks stuff is great though.

nG

 

[mazzasec 5,000+ posts]

I gotz the flekz its amazing!

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

As good as the original, Kicker Hyperflex, which I have 100+ feet of in my truck //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif.

nG

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

I had some kompression distribution blocks and fuse holders. The rings didnt fit well, and to me it didnt seem like a real good way of mechanical anchoring wire in the first place. I actually just threw them away.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

The kompression fitting work well, but are just temperamental to how you set them up.

The wire is constantly loose in mine.

But what is really frustrating about it is that, on my block atleast, the nut for the 0/1ga is wider than the block is tall, so when trying to loosen/tighten the nut it scrapes against and catches on the bottom plate. Genius!

 

[PatFitz9 10+ year member]

The wire is constantly loose in mine.
But what is really frustrating about it is that, on my block atleast, the nut for the 0/1ga is wider than the block is tall, so when trying to loosen/tighten the nut it scrapes against and catches on the bottom plate. Genius!

This is the dumbest design I have ever seen. I now know why they don't explain it well on the site.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

NEVER, and I repeat NEVAR use this stuff. I've been installing for over a half dozen years, and never met any speaker wire that is more frustrating to work with.
http://knukonceptz.com/productMaster.cfm?category=Karma%20SS%20Speaker%20Kable

All of knu's other products are stellar, but this twisted cable is just a PITA to work with. Trying to access each strand individually, quickly, is next to impossible. Using a pair of dikes or a razor blade and you can harm the individual casing on each strand... possibly leading to a short.

Just thought I'd share my experience with others, and save people the headache of using this stuff. If someone comes to me with this for an install, I won't use it.

kthnxbi.

nG

I think all twisted cable is a PITA.

I had some Monster twisted cable I got from someone on the forum... I ended up going out and buying regular side-by-side wire because it was just too annoying to work with.

 

[knukonceptz 10+ year member]

NEVER, and I repeat NEVAR use this stuff. I've been installing for over a half dozen years, and never met any speaker wire that is more frustrating to work with.
http://knukonceptz.com/productMaster.cfm?category=Karma%20SS%20Speaker%20Kable

All of knu's other products are stellar, but this twisted cable is just a PITA to work with. Trying to access each strand individually, quickly, is next to impossible. Using a pair of dikes or a razor blade and you can harm the individual casing on each strand... possibly leading to a short.

Just thought I'd share my experience with others, and save people the headache of using this stuff. If someone comes to me with this for an install, I won't use it.

kthnxbi.

nG

nG, REALLY? You never used any other twisted speaker wire before? Stinger, Tsunami etc.. they are all made the same way. If you are looking for quick, then no, the Karma Speaker is not the cable for you. Stick with the Klear Blue stuff, its why we offer many series of products, some people have the time to make the installation pretty and others are on the clock, so time is money.

I think the fleks wire has spoiled us all, anything less flexible then that or the Hyperflex is deemed utter crap. We tried the Fleks jacket with the Clad wire, it was not a good mix, we're still working on that project....

Posters with RCA trouble, the Karma and Krystal ends are crimped (physically) onto the cable and soldered. If you are pulling on the cable, you might pull harder then that physical connection can hold. Soldered 21 gauge wires are NOT a strain relief. We actually use a pretty large conductor in our RCA compared to most manufactures, usually 24-26 gauge is the norm for an RCA. It is a low voltage level and does not need a 16 gauge conductor, too big will actually hurt high frequency roll off. Check out any RCA, you'll see that info is pretty much spot on.

Bow94 - I received your mail and replied to your question, your purchase was over 30 days so you would need to ship back the item for replacement. I understand you want to swap the cable that has a problem and install a new one the same day. To do that, you need to order one and then send back the defect for a full refund once removed from the car. The same situation would be true if you bought it locally, purchase a replacement and return the problem cable once removed. We can not ship out the item without charging you unless the item is defective out of the package. You have 15-20 days after the original purchase to notify us of an item being defective out of the package. In those cases a replacement and return tag are issued.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

nG, REALLY? You never used any other twisted speaker wire before? Stinger, Tsunami etc.. they are all made the same way. If you are looking for quick, then no, the Karma Speaker is not the cable for you. Stick with the Klear Blue stuff, its why we offer many series of products, some people have the time to make the installation pretty and others are on the clock, so time is money.
I think the fleks wire has spoiled us all, anything less flexible then that or the Hyperflex is deemed utter crap. We tried the Fleks jacket with the Clad wire, it was not a good mix, we're still working on that project....

Posters with RCA trouble, the Karma and Krystal ends are crimped (physically) onto the cable and soldered. If you are pulling on the cable, you might pull harder then that physical connection can hold. Soldered 21 gauge wires are NOT a strain relief. We actually use a pretty large conductor in our RCA compared to most manufactures, usually 24-26 gauge is the norm for an RCA. It is a low voltage level and does not need a 16 gauge conductor, too big will actually hurt high frequency roll off. Check out any RCA, you'll see that info is pretty much spot on.

Bow94 - I received your mail and replied to your question, your purchase was over 30 days so you would need to ship back the item for replacement. I understand you want to swap the cable that has a problem and install a new one the same day. To do that, you need to order one and then send back the defect for a full refund once removed from the car. The same situation would be true if you bought it locally, purchase a replacement and return the problem cable once removed. We can not ship out the item without charging you unless the item is defective out of the package. You have 15-20 days after the original purchase to notify us of an item being defective out of the package. In those cases a replacement and return tag are issued.

I can edit the title...

ALL twisted wire with shrinked outer jacket sucks...

nG

 

[kotec123 10+ year member]

lol what a response

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

Posters with RCA trouble, the Karma and Krystal ends are crimped (physically) onto the cable and soldered. If you are pulling on the cable, you might pull harder then that physical connection can hold. Soldered 21 gauge wires are NOT a strain relief. We actually use a pretty large conductor in our RCA compared to most manufactures, usually 24-26 gauge is the norm for an RCA. It is a low voltage level and does not need a 16 gauge conductor, too big will actually hurt high frequency roll off. Check out any RCA, you'll see that info is pretty much spot on.

Gravity is strong enough to break your crimped connection, there was no other pulling involved. One cable end was in my hand as I was trying to loosen the RCA head so it would stop pulling my ground shield off of my amp and the other head was dangling in the air. After about two minutes, the head had fallen off from hanging. That is ghetto quality. Your crimp job doesn't hold for shit and is very low quality when compared with other RCAs in their price range. That was the third head that had broken off for me.

While I'm well aware that a solder joint is not a load bearing joint and shouldn't be, but I was complaining about the shitty job done on the soldering and heat shrink tubing. I had TWO strands of wire soldered to the ground terminal and the other strands were just floating. That is ghetto. I had pretty bad noise issues and after replacing the cables with another set on the same run, I had no noise at all.