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[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

My field is car audio so yes, it does apply to my field and it proves you wrong. NOWHERE does it say this is all a regulator does. More food for thought since you don't believe the article that disproved you already, what do we call something that increases something? It's an amplifier right? If the regulator's ONLY purpose is to increase the voltage why isn't it called an amplifier? We have terms like reducer and shunt for reducing.... and regulator means it can adjust up and down. Again this is all common sense, but you're obviously not that bright. You've now ignored logic AND a source with facts that prove you wrong. You need to let your stubborn pride go. You have been tried, tested, and been found wanting.

it's purpose is not to increase voltage it is to "regulate" it... hence the name regulator. 1 of those regulation purposes is to prevent high voltage from getting to the diodes and overvolting them and burning them up causing AC to enter the electrical path... how on earth would lower voltage cause any harm to them? there job in the rectifier bridge is to convert AC to DC....

 

[ahole-ic]

it's purpose is not to increase voltage it is to "regulate" it... hence the name regulator. 1 of those regulation purposes is to prevent high voltage from getting to the diodes and overvolting them and burning them up causing AC to enter the electrical path... how on earth would lower voltage cause any harm to them? there job in the rectifier bridge is to convert AC to DC....

Now you show your stupidity. How does voltage hurt a diode at all?

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

What about the top of the article that says this: "In automobile alternators and central power station generator plants, voltage regulators control the output of the plant."

if you will notice automobile alternator is highlited.. meaning the info is in a link...

it when clicked takes you here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternatorand neither 1 says anything about the regulator doing anything at low voltages... only excessive or high voltages..

keep trying dude..

 

[ahole-ic]

if you will notice automobile alternator is highlited.. meaning the info is in a link...
it when clicked takes you here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternatorand neither 1 says anything about the regulator doing anything at low voltages... only excessive or high voltages..

keep trying dude..

I don't need to "keep trying" I've already proved you wrong.... and you can't DISPROVE it. Something not including it does not disprove it. LOL you're grasping at straws.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

also...

In the case of modern automotive alternators the voltage regulator "regulates" the output from the alternator by limiting the current flowing through the rotating field assembly inside the alternator. The weaker the electromagnetic field of this "rotor" the lower the output (both current and voltage) of the alternator.

When the electrical load on the alternator is low the regulator reduces the field strength based on it's set upper voltage limit. When the load increases beyond the capacity of the "limited" output the voltage drops (the load is kind of "shorting out" the power from the alternator) and the regulator allows the field current (and therefor the output of the alternator) to rise until the voltage reaches that "upper limit" again and so on.

automotive alternators/regulators do not have a "low limit" go pull some specs from denso or nippon they publish them online none of them have a low voltage cutoff ect... as you refer too....

 

[ahole-ic]

"The majority of voltage regulators will have over current protection - which will help to hold back the sourcing current or to limit it. If the output current is at high levels then some regulators will mechanically close down."

Learning How Voltage Regulators Work

"This power management IC device has protection control ability which known as Over Current Protection (OCP)"

Diagram External Car Alternator Voltage Regulator - DATASHEET and Circuit Diagram

"However, many regulators have over-current protection, so entirely stop sourcing current (or limit the current in some way) if the output current is too high, and some regulators may also shut down if the input voltage is outside a given range (see also: crowbar circuits)."

Voltage regulator

I can go all day dude. You're wrong.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

I don't need to "keep trying" I've already proved you wrong.... and you can't DISPROVE it. Something not including it does not disprove it. LOL you're grasping at straws.

you unfortunately are the 1 with the pride issue

i was actually thinking you were right and was willing to learn where I was wrong...you have not proven anything but how big your ego is dude...and you are wrong lol do like I said and pull up some automotive alternator regulator specs for common cars and show us where they have a low voltage cutoff....

straws... get real... you are the only 1 so far that disagrees with anything said here... lol

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

"The majority of voltage regulators will have over current protection - which will help to hold back the sourcing current or to limit it. If the output current is at high levels then some regulators will mechanically close down."
Learning How Voltage Regulators Work

"This power management IC device has protection control ability which known as Over Current Protection (OCP)"

Diagram External Car Alternator Voltage Regulator - DATASHEET and Circuit Diagram

"However, many regulators have over-current protection, so entirely stop sourcing current (or limit the current in some way) if the output current is too high, and some regulators may also shut down if the input voltage is outside a given range (see also: crowbar circuits)."

Voltage regulator

I can go all day dude. You're wrong.

everything you just said reinforces everything I said... OCP overcurrent not under current

you can't admit your wrong cuz of all the BS bashing you did and no way to get out of it w/o looking like the retard you really are..

you asked for proof I gave it yet you still argue and reinforce my proofs...

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

Go go go

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

Power Management IC Datasheet for Portable Applications

Friday, 19. February 2010 by admindata

The Fujitsu MB39C316 Power Management IC marked as suitable use for portable applications like Mobile WiMAX terminals and any other mobile terminals. According to the datasheet, Fujitsu MB39C316 Power Management IC is equipped with the 3 ch DC/DC converter and the 4 ch linear regulator (LDO), and it is the power supply LSI for mobile terminals which operate in the range of power supply voltage with 1-cell Li-ion power by 1ch high efficiency voltage step-up/down DC/DC.

your link not mine... not an automotive voltage regulator by any stretch...

 

[ahole-ic]

everything you just said reinforces everything I said... OCP overcurrent not under current
you can't admit your wrong cuz of all the BS bashing you did and no way to get out of it w/o looking like the retard you really are..

you asked for proof I gave it yet you still argue and reinforce my proofs...

Because I'm not wrong. Who said anything about undercurrent?

Literally nothing I said reinforces anything you said. They all prove you horribly wrong.

 

[ahole-ic]

Power Management IC Datasheet for Portable Applications Friday, 19. February 2010 by admindata

The Fujitsu MB39C316 Power Management IC marked as suitable use for portable applications like Mobile WiMAX terminals and any other mobile terminals. According to the datasheet, Fujitsu MB39C316 Power Management IC is equipped with the 3 ch DC/DC converter and the 4 ch linear regulator (LDO), and it is the power supply LSI for mobile terminals which operate in the range of power supply voltage with 1-cell Li-ion power by 1ch high efficiency voltage step-up/down DC/DC.

your link not mine... not an automotive voltage regulator by any stretch...

I'll concede that one.

Disprove all of them.

Also, if they reinforce your point, why are you trying to prove them wrong? Lol you're an idiot.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

I'll concede that one.Disprove all of them.

Also, if they reinforce your point, why are you trying to prove them wrong? Lol you're an idiot.

you really want me to post all of them? I will if you really wish...but,they are all basically the same... none of them are for an alternator in a car...

 

[ahole-ic]

you really want me to post all of them? I will if you really wish...but,they are all basically the same... none of them are for an alternator in a car...

One of them OBVIOUSLY is. It says so in the title and link. lol LIAR

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

Exactly but you left out 1 key thing. When the alternator cannot provide any more current, it's regulator drops the voltage to protect the diodes. Since the voltage and current stay proportional, dropping the voltage drops the amount of current that can be drawn from the alternator. Once this voltage drops to the battery voltage, then the battery begins discharging as well.

Because I'm not wrong. Who said anything about undercurrent?Literally nothing I said reinforces anything you said. They all prove you horribly wrong.

you forget you said that? you said the regulator reduces the current to protect the diodes... ***WRONG*** then had the ballz to ask me how voltage can hurt a diode...???

as has been proven you do not have a clue about a cars alternator in regards to the regulator... you may know field related stuff but as far as cars go you are dense as a brick in the mud...