just installed RF P312D4's... not working PLEASE HELP

[skylineTT 10+ year member]

It looks like your speaker terminal cups are wired incorrectly from the picture. Look at the colors on the posts.. It looks like you've got the left side red going to the right side black and the left side black going to the right side red. That would make the subs play out of phase and give you basically no bass.. I don't know how the subs are wired internally though so it depends on that.

 

[audiobaun 5,000+ posts]

Wiring Diagrams were given, and stated to check the wiring configurations out

 

[Jaguar 10+ year member]

So a Kicker ZX, Orion HCCAS, and RF power amps, JL / amps are BS? Get out

@DCtC This should probably be discussed in a thread devoted to what qualifies a mono-block to be a true mono amp.

 

There are a lot of amps like Kenwoods and Alpines ''mono-block'' amps that claim to be able to be wired to 1 ohm but are not 1 ohm stable, they are 2 ohm stable at best. That's all I was ever trying to say.. You like so many others have way way more experience than me, by no means am I any authority here

on matters. It's more like I was relaying what I've learned in my study time, while hoping to learn more (from members such as yourself). Your input here

is invaluable, by no means am I trying to start an argument with any member here at all. In fact, If I'm ever wrong I expect people like you to point it out.

I don't know how the subs are wired internally though so it depends on that.

Been trying to find that out.

 

It probably would help if he took some photos. Even if he finally got the wiring down on the outside, the subs would also have to be wired in parallel/series

properly as well as having all the +'s / -'s on that wire aligned. Doubt his amps going to blow but the fuses are likely to if even one wire is not properly set.

 

[kramer_212 10+ year member]

I disagree whether it matters what ohm a true mono-block amp is stable at. You've taken what I've said out of context though. It *was* a discussion about mainstream mono-block's that claim to have the ability to be wired to 1 ohm that are not 1 ohm stable

vs underground mono-blocks which are truly 1 ohm stable. Also aren't stating the obvious that mono-blocks have only one channel.

Im at a loss of words give me some of these underground brands and some model numbers that are. Your so called "true monoblocks.."

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

@Jaguar ; you have no business giving anyone advice- you have no clue what you are talking about period.

 

[NFrazier 10+ year member]

This should probably be discussed in a thread devoted to what qualifies a mono-block to be a true mono amp.

There doesn't need to be a thread devoted to discussion what qualifies a mono-block to be a "true" mono block.

Amplifiers are broken down into categories based on topographic (or class) and number of channels (there are more ways to break it down but I'm just going to use these for now).

Class consists of the type of circuitry that the amplifier uses to produce power (such as D, A/B, B/D, A/D, etc., etc.)

Number of channels consists of how many separate channels the amplifier has. For instance a mono-block has 1 channel of output (takes the left and right channel and sums them into 1 mono channel), a 2-channel which is "stereo" as it takes the left input and right input and reproduces them independently. 4-channel is the same thing, it takes in a left and right input for the front and the same for the rear, all independent. Finally there are multi-channel (which consists of 5, 6 channel, etc.)

A "true" mono-block is one that has 1 channel regardless of what impedance it is stable at. Just because an amplifier (such as mainstream companies) have a mono block that is 2 or 4 ohm stable, doesn't mean it's not a true mono block. ****, if the amp is .25, .5, 10, 24, 68 ohm stable, as long as it has one channel of output, it is considered a mono block.

There are a lot of amps like Kenwoods and Alpines ''mono-block'' amps that claim to be able to be wired to 1 ohm but are not 1 ohm stable, they are 2 ohm stable at best.

I don't get the "at best" comment. I have never ran into a Kenwood or Alpine that says it'll produce X power @ X impedance that it hasn't done or exceeded.

 

[Jaguar 10+ year member]

@NFrazier thanks for clearing up this obvious misconception I had about mono-blocks.

 

[ewadz3006 10+ year member]

Ive spent the last 10 minutes or so reading this thread, now i am pissed that i cant get those minutes back. I am now dumber and less of a man.

Thanks