JBL VS JL support your decisions

[mike11202 10+ year member]

JBL W12 GTi on 125watts in .5 cu ft box after displacement.. just a little test, i didn't have the polyfill in yet as well

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Efficiency is NOT the same thing as sensitivity. It also has very little to do with getting loud. Learn your parameters.
Also, have you ever heard of mounting a sub inverted? It would be very possible to put a GTI in .5 cubes although I doubt it would sound great. It would be in the same alignment as the w6 in .85 cubes. Since he isn't looking to save space, it's pointless to worry about.

I have some questions for you though, cotjones:

1) Define "arguably flatter response" and give the enclosures you're talking about.

2) Give me your reasons why you think the w6 will sound better.

3) Tell me what the original poster wants out of their sub setup.

Also, I'm sure 2mm xmax is a huge reason to pick one sub or another. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

It also seemed very clear that this guy wasn't all that concerned with output so why worry so much about cone area when it's possible to get very loud with even a 10" sub?

He should choose the sub that best fits what he wants for his application.

To the OP: Immacomputer > Cotjones

Seriously, one will try to actually help you choose what will best suit your needs. The other will only try to justify his boner for a particular brand. Guess which one is which.

 

[mike11202 10+ year member]

 

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

gti

 

[skisloski 10+ year member]

JBL W12 GTi on 125watts in .5 cu ft box after displacement.. just a little test, i didn't have the polyfill in yet as well

what did you think of the sub in your experience, positive and negative?

 

[skisloski 10+ year member]

it seems like you want us to back you on your jbl decision rather than tell you what we think so you should def do what you want and get the jbl.

not so much of backing my decision up, because at first i wanted the w6, then heard alot about the gti and it sounded nice, i want to confirm that the gti SHOULD outperform the w6

 

[mike11202 10+ year member]

what did you think of the sub in your experience, positive and negative?

Well of all the subs I've used and heard this one was the best sound quality wise.. it had the best SQ while being pretty loud at the same time

Can't think of any negatives.. this subs a work of art, they make some of the best professional speakers

 

[mike11202 10+ year member]

 

[skisloski 10+ year member]

yeah, lol

sold

 

[Max_Power 10+ year member]

man, that is one sexy motor!!!

 

[skisloski 10+ year member]

i agree, wow never seen a sub quite like that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

Those subs are dead sexy.

 

[mike11202 10+ year member]

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Efficiency is NOT the same thing as sensitivity. It also has very little to do with getting loud. Learn your parameters.

i never said it had anything to do with getting loud, but when converted, they amount to the same thing

Also, have you ever heard of mounting a sub inverted? It would be very possible to put a GTI in .5 cubes although I doubt it would sound great. It would be in the same alignment as the w6 in .85 cubes. Since he isn't looking to save space, it's pointless to worry about.

reverse mounting is an option, but it doesn't change the fact that the sub can't possibly fit in a 5 cube box, which he is saying he did

I have some questions for you though, cotjones:
1) Define "arguably flatter response" and give the enclosures you're talking about.

2) Give me your reasons why you think the w6 will sound better.

3) Tell me what the original poster wants out of their sub setup.

1.) the reason i said arguably flatter is because it's very subjective, but imo it's easier to get a flat responce out of a w6

2.) personal opinion, i've heard a couple setups with the GTIs and i think a 13" w6 will be both louder and have better SQ

3.)ask him, but as i said, the W6 seems better whether he wants an SQ , or SPL and DEFINITELY SQL

Also, I'm sure 2mm xmax is a huge reason to pick one sub or another. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

it is a HUGE concern in output if you want to put it in a sealed enclosure, the extra excursion times the extra piston area= more displacement= higher output... its still a conscern in ported enlcosures geared for music listening because the sub will not always be playing close to tuning and thus needs the excursion capabilty to produce even output at certain frequencies

It also seemed very clear that this guy wasn't all that concerned with output so why worry so much about cone area when it's possible to get very loud with even a 10" sub?

i was just contrasting the 2 subs

He should choose the sub that best fits what he wants for his application.

agreed, i never said the W6 is right for him, just that it is capable to beat the gti in SQ and SPL

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

Gti........