Is there an audible difference between MP3 and CD quatitly? find out for yourself!

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Nobody is legit in his feeble little mind. Hell he was arguing with people that have multiple championships.

im sure your a good tuner. but most of the people here don't really compete they just want good sound. you are one of the few whos been exposed to knowledgeable people so you have a better understanding.

alot of stuff you say is simply made up and just not true fom an electrical and acoustical stand point regardless if i'm a world champ or not.

Anybody will hear 3bd difference. do they know how it affect image? maybe not but they can tell you something isn't right with a 3db difference. Anyone who knows abit about sound intensity will tell you red flag..

 

[The_Quiet_One 10+ year member]

4/6 listening to the first 3 seconds - the 2 I missed I chose the 320 kbps on Neil Young and Katy Perry

Listening on Sennheiser HD 558 with a schiit stack

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

4/6 listening to the first 3 seconds - the 2 I missed I chose the 320 kbps on Neil Young and Katy Perry
Listening on Sennheiser HD 558 with a schiit stack

Can you actually hear any difference or it was good guesses?

 

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And volume level here is important.

 

[The_Quiet_One 10+ year member]

Can you actually hear any difference or it was good guesses? 

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And volume level here is important.

I "thought" I heard a very very slight difference in some of the songs, but you know psychoacoustics and all that....I probably got lucky. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/suave.gif.858fc102f7646e678ee8af7e1fbc41d1.gif

I was listening at about 1/3 max volume; I also should mention I'm not using any fancy sound card as well. Started storming hard here so desktop is a no go. I'll try again tomorrow.

Really if it wasn't side by side I would not be able to hear the difference between a higher quality mp3 vs uncompressed....assuming I'm really hearing a difference at all.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I "thought" I heard a very very slight difference in some of the songs, but you know psychoacoustics and all that....I probably got lucky. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/suave.gif.858fc102f7646e678ee8af7e1fbc41d1.gif
I was listening at about 1/3 max volume; I also should mention I'm not using any fancy sound card as well. Started storming hard here so desktop is a no go. I'll try again tomorrow.

Really if it wasn't side by side I would not be able to hear the difference between a higher quality mp3 vs uncompressed....assuming I'm really hearing a difference at all.

i usually get 4/6 on my laptop when i hooked it up to my home stereo i get 5 nearly every time. the most noticeable thing is the noise floor and strong dynamic strikes as well as the vey high harmonics and very low tones if your woofer is up to it.

 

[The_Quiet_One 10+ year member]

i usually get 4/6 on my laptop when i hooked it up to my home stereo i get 5 nearly every time. the most noticeable thing is the noise floor and strong dynamic strikes as well as the vey high harmonics and very low tones if your woofer is up to it.

I use headphones for any of my "critical" listening. It's too much of a PITA to get a home stereo properly set up. I'll try again at a higher volume and see how that goes.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

I got 3/6 on my s8 headphones. All 3 I got wrong I picked 320. So maybe I cant hear difference between 320 and uncompressed, but I can below

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I got 3/6 on my s8 headphones. All 3 I got wrong I picked 320. So maybe I cant hear difference between 320 and uncompressed, but I can below

Some songs are very hard. No doubt.

I listen to a lot of stuff in 16/44 it's easier when you know the recordings very good then you hear noise and you can't hear the lack of transparency once you go to mp3.

Like I said though some stuff is mastered better than others and have more detail.. listen to the noise floor and dynamics..

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

S/not becomes apparent at higher volumes. One recording that is revealing is In the air tonight..

bjork is pretty cool too. I like army of me..

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

you know dam well you said i couldn't even assign inputs so i did to show you. then you just recently told me i don't have individual settings for adjusting my output yet i do.
now you saying i can't use the DSP but you apparently don't know this isn't my first active system. kmsl.

i took your word for the channel tuning even though i used 1/3 octave tones with a RTA to adjust the levels. killing all the channels doing each speaker individually and doing each side then testing all drivers.

3 DB difference is a HUGE difference. its perceived as twice as loud. an average over bandwidth is misleading as well. regardless of what frequency if you have them matched within a 1db you wouldn't hear the difference and its going to be defined and placement will be recognizable.

you don't even kno what tuning features my CD player has yet you know what i've done. seriously? lol

If you had a single stereo full range input like most use because that's all you need you didn't assign them right.

And 3db is 2x the intensity. 10db is known as 2x as loud.

3db is the point you know something is different but that's frequency dependent.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

If you had a single stereo full range input like most use because that's all you need you didn't assign them right.
And 3db is 2x the intensity. 10db is known as 2x as loud.

3db is the point you know something is different but that's frequency dependent.

No 3db is perceived twice of loud 10DB is twice as loud.1db is the human sensitivity threshold

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I assigned them to correspond to my cd players outputs.

We went over this. Stop playing fool..

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

No 3db is perceived twice of loud 10DB is twice as loud.1db is the human sensitivity threshold

Maybe for your self proclaimed golden ears. But to the rest of society 3db is the threshold we notice something is different.

And that's scientificly proven.

And if it's just 3db on a few frequency you won't notice at all. 3db full range is noticeable.

 

[Zero_Ohms]

There is definitely a difference. Some people can hear it others can't as much. What a lot of people don't realize is the music that you listen to makes a difference as well. Some stuff is recorded and mixed badly. Its recorded for ****** speakers and to be played on the radio. That's the stuff that you won't notice much of a difference on. Now listen to something that's mixed and recorded very well and there is no doubt you will hear a huge difference.

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[kr15 5,000+ posts]

"3db on a few frequncies isnt noticable''

What is a "few"... a substage might only play 30-60hz but 3db is definately noticable

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

"3db on a few frequncies isnt noticable''
What is a "few"... a substage might only play 30-60hz but 3db is definately noticable

Noticeable. Not double loudness. I was referring to a dip/peak here and there 20-20k. Which will always be there because we can EQ every single one.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

No, not double loudness. I think because the general nature of the "it takes 2x power or 2x cone area to gain 3db" notion that it might be also perceived as "twice as loud"

I just went from 1 12 to 2 12s, and amazingly almost gained 3db, cuz it never happens in real world. And its very noticably louder. But 148 to 151 isnt an earth shattering difference

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

No, not double loudness. I think because the general nature of the "it takes 2x power or 2x cone area to gain 3db" notion that it might be also perceived as "twice as loud"
I just went from 1 12 to 2 12s, and amazingly almost gained 3db, cuz it never happens in real world. And its very noticably louder. But 148 to 151 isnt an earth shattering difference

That's also do to the air movement in sub bass. Try to tell the difference at lower volume where distortion is lower.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

No such thing as low distortion in my truck. #clipcity

Lol

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

No such thing as low distortion in my truck. #clipcity Lol

lol these guys must be really bored today