If you had $2200 for amps what would you buy?

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

thought you were talking about hertz mafia so nvm
adulbrich just works his *** off usually, then again his family has a lot of money (compared to the rest of us) so his expenses are less

Not gonna get involved in Nate's issue.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

No clue yet. This build is still a long way off from completion. How many banks would you suggest?
I just bought a 1994 Chevy 3500 today for $650 and my cousin's husband drove it home for me. This weekend I'm driving up to my uncle Dave's house to trade some stuff for a 97 single cab, a 350, and 4 speed transmission. Going to be making a rat rod that's as low and fast as possible. I will be buying some of the metal for my steel cage this weekend and some more next week. I'm also wanting to buy a Honda CBR 1000 this winter to I can get it cheaper on the off season.

I just started working again on Tuesday. I can buy any number of caps. I don't have a budget in mind. I just have to save the money up. The more I spend though, the longer it'll take to complete the build, lol. Rent and tuition are covered by my mom, but I'll have two trucks, and a motorcycle (or two) to pay insurance on. Food and gas isn't cheap either.

Time and money are now my limiting factors.

Well by my math, a 6 pack super-cap bank stores enough energy to feed one 8K amp for just a bit over 2 seconds and that's perfect world on-paper. No idea what they will do real-world. So at 260 or so per bank it starts to add up pretty fast. Money no object you may do best with a combination of extra alternators 4-5 cap banks AND some lithium. Pretty much covers all your bases. I'm also still not convinced you'll want to charge beyond 14.4. You gain so little for one extra volt at the expense of a lot of complication and risk to your amps. If you had 18V amps I'd say it's probably worth the effort to go 18V charging, but 15V max amps are designed to operate at real world charging voltage and protect higher for a reason.

Considering you avoid the meter like kryptonite it's not like you're chasing a couple tenths which is all you would likely gain going from 14 to 15V. You'd gain more with a 10$ spool of gorilla tape.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

@Hertz Mafia Sundown Ns1 v2 - Car Audio Classifieds!

 

[Hertz Mafia]

[quote name='Boomin_tahoe']@Hertz Mafia Sundown Ns1 v2 - Car Audio Classifieds![/QUOTE]

I want a NS2 not a NS1

 

[Hertz Mafia]

hes buying this and that with the same money thats refunded from his abuse of warranty systems. hes like the rest of us and isnt some rich kid, just saying
if he would of just worked with taramps he'd have two amps that give him plenty of output

I didn't abuse anything. I do the same thing with anything I buy.. if I buy something and it doesn't work correctly out the box I would return it for refund and buy another brand, I'm not going to keep the brand that doesn't work....example: just like if you buy a 2017 new car and it blows up soon as you pull out the lot, so they give u another car and it shuts off on you every time u hit the gas... do u want a 3rd car from them or do you want your money back to go buy another brand of car. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/graduate.gif.d982460be9f153bb54e5d4cb744f6ae8.gif

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

thought you were talking about hertz mafia so nvm
adulbrich just works his *** off usually, then again his family has a lot of money (compared to the rest of us) so his expenses are less

Fair statement. I don't pay rent or tuition, but I pay food, gas, insurance, and anything fun I have to buy. After college I won't have the extra money to buy fun stuff unless I get a really good job. Trying to enjoy things while I can. Right now, I'm making good money doing construction, so I bought some toys.

Dam man....buying this buying that.!! Wanna buy me something?!
I say the VP amps too. Too bad they don't got any other colors avail for them.

I've still got a lot left to buy for myself, lol. Probably going to finish my builds next Summer.

1. Steel and wood for my sub box

2. Caps (and maybe lithium)

3. Power wire

4. Steel for my rat frame

5. Air bags for the rat

6. Seats for the rat

7. Radiator for the rat

8. Cobalt A arms, ball joints, tie rods, ect.

9. Aluminum intake

10. Edelbrock or Holley carberator

Well by my math, a 6 pack super-cap bank stores enough energy to feed one 8K amp for just a bit over 2 seconds and that's perfect world on-paper. No idea what they will do real-world. So at 260 or so per bank it starts to add up pretty fast. Money no object you may do best with a combination of extra alternators 4-5 cap banks AND some lithium. Pretty much covers all your bases. I'm also still not convinced you'll want to charge beyond 14.4. You gain so little for one extra volt at the expense of a lot of complication and risk to your amps. If you had 18V amps I'd say it's probably worth the effort to go 18V charging, but 15V max amps are designed to operate at real world charging voltage and protect higher for a reason.
Considering you avoid the meter like kryptonite it's not like you're chasing a couple tenths which is all you would likely gain going from 14 to 15V. You'd gain more with a 10$ spool of gorilla tape.

They're 16v, not 15v amps. It was $300 extra to have the auxiliary alternators externally regulated. In the big picture, that's not a whole lot for an extra volt.

In a year, they might have different lithium technology. Right now, the cell operating voltages aren't available to run 14v banks that charge near 16v.

As far as I know, the "Black Nasty" uses only caps and performs great. I won't be big into competing, but after meeting some more local people I'll have access to a meter to see how I'm doing and tweak things.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

As far as I know, the "Black Nasty" uses only caps and performs great.

Yeah, about 8 grand worth and how many alternators and how hard does he really push this for how long? Assuming you JUST need his bank plus another 32 to make each bank of 6 that's a lot of money, but that isn't even true, capacitance in series is the reciprocal of the sum of the reciprocals of the capacitance and you'll need even more energy stored to make power at higher voltage. If you are ready to gamble 10 thousand plus on capacitors my hat's off to you. Let us know how it pans out for you, and if you are going that big perhaps you can get a big group buy on ultra caps and sling a few around here.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, about 8 grand worth and how many alternators and how hard does he really push this for how long? Assuming you JUST need his bank plus another 32 to make each bank of 6 that's a lot of money, but that isn't even true, capacitance in series is the reciprocal of the sum of the reciprocals of the capacitance and you'll need even more energy stored to make power at higher voltage. If you are ready to gamble 10 thousand plus on capacitors my hat's off to you. Let us know how it pans out for you, and if you are going that big perhaps you can get a big group buy on ultra caps and sling a few around here.

T15kW - 15,000 Watt 4-Ch. Hybrid SQ/SPL Amp | Rockford Fosgate®

 

[mrj858 10+ year member]

Yeah, about 8 grand worth and how many alternators and how hard does he really push this for how long? Assuming you JUST need his bank plus another 32 to make each bank of 6 that's a lot of money, but that isn't even true, capacitance in series is the reciprocal of the sum of the reciprocals of the capacitance and you'll need even more energy stored to make power at higher voltage. If you are ready to gamble 10 thousand plus on capacitors my hat's off to you. Let us know how it pans out for you, and if you are going that big perhaps you can get a big group buy on ultra caps and sling a few around here.

Quad 340amp mechman alts and 32 banks

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I didn't abuse anything. I do the same thing with anything I buy.. if I buy something and it doesn't work correctly out the box I would return it for refund and buy another brand, I'm not going to keep the brand that doesn't work....example: just like if you buy a 2017 new car and it blows up soon as you pull out the lot, so they give u another car and it shuts off on you every time u hit the gas... do u want a 3rd car from them or do you want your money back to go buy another brand of car. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/graduate.gif.d982460be9f153bb54e5d4cb744f6ae8.gif

I got a idea. Just send it to me so I can finish my car. Then go beat Joel's *** all over the gulf coast. Isn't that worth it to you? Ah you know it is... Come on Nate.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, about 8 grand worth and how many alternators and how hard does he really push this for how long? Assuming you JUST need his bank plus another 32 to make each bank of 6 that's a lot of money, but that isn't even true, capacitance in series is the reciprocal of the sum of the reciprocals of the capacitance and you'll need even more energy stored to make power at higher voltage. If you are ready to gamble 10 thousand plus on capacitors my hat's off to you. Let us know how it pans out for you, and if you are going that big perhaps you can get a big group buy on ultra caps and sling a few around here.

I might get some 14v batteries too then. Aren't capacitors alone better than capacitors with batteries though? I know they burp higher

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

@Hertz Mafia .....have you made a decision yet?

 

[Hertz Mafia]

[quote name='Boomin_tahoe']@Hertz Mafia .....have you made a decision yet?[/QUOTE]

Gunna do two vp 700.1 for $2200 shipped

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Good deal.

Post up pics when installed, mmkay?!

 

[mrj858 10+ year member]

I might get some 14v batteries too then. Aren't capacitors alone better than capacitors with batteries though? I know they burp higher

Yeah batts with caps didn't really change my score all that much.... .5db at most,bass had more impact though and "hit harder" ...caps with lithium?? Is beast gained 2db and I have a buddy who dropped his rear battery bank added caps and lithium and gained 3db