I want a "Wowing" 18

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

EW! bass knob is not volume button //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

Good lord you're an idiot.

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

EW! bass knob is not volume button //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

yes it is //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

i'm not talking about bass boost knob on cheapos amp

And even if you don't have one there is a sw +/- function on most 50$+ headunit

no one ever heard a 15w3? w3 serie in general?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

No head room is great, but you can usually get the head room you need out of decent 12's... 15's MAYBE, but 18's for a pure SQ isn't just head room, its over-kill. even most bottom-line 18's are quite loud enough to overpower a front stage.The most amusing thing about this is that you are still arguing with me about my OPINION, (that 18's are stupid for SQ setups.) and reguardless of what you would like to imagine i said so you can entertain yourself, that opinion is based on the factor of output, NOT SQ. If i was going to enter an SQ competion, there is no way my first choice would be 18... unless i just had money to blow and wanted something unusual, or i was trying to prove a point, (like the SQ comp the 18" solo-x won.) but when it won, it was so dramatically under-powered in all reality he coulda won with 15's or 12's... it was mainly just to shut the people up that say the 18 solo-x is loud but sounds like a wet fart... (me)

There is a difference in paying 50 extra bucks for headroom, and paying 600 extra bucks for powerhandling you are going to half.

lets go to the lanes...

http://manuals.harman.com/articlefiles/JBL/CAR/JBL%20MS8%20and%20Team%20JBL%20at%202007%20Spring%20Break%20Nationals.pdf

Lets go back to some lines of SQ subs...

Focal utopia:

5, 8, and 13 - NO 18

Focal Polyglass:

8, 11, and 13 - NO 18 (focal makes 18s in other lines)

Alumpro:

only offer's 10's and 12's - NO 18

JL W6V2:

8, 10, 12, 13 - NO 18

JL W7:

8, 10, 12, 13 - NO 18

Eclipse:

10's and 12's only- NO 18

Dynaudio:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18

DLS Ultimate nobelium:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18

DLS Ultimate iridium:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18 (but their SPL line does come in an 18... hmmm)

Soundsplinter RL-s:

12, 15 - NO 18 (soundsplinter ALSO offers an SPL sub in an 18)

DD 9100:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18 (hmmm like the only high end line they don't offer in an 18)

Diamond audio:

8, 10, 12, 15 - NO 18

Cerwin vega:

8, 10, 12, 15 - NO 18

IDq:

10, 12 - NO 18

IDmax:

10, 12 - NO 18

SI mag:

12 - NO 18

alpine Type-x:

10, 12 - NO 18 (but the type-R comes in a 15)

Polk:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18

Helix:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18

Aura:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18

Rainbows:

7, 8, 10, 12 - NO 18

Treo TSX:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18

Treo TE:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18

Treo TSi:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18 (treo is a good one, the ONLY subs they don't offer in 18's are their SQ oriented ones)

Dayton:

5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15 - NO 18

Arc Flatline:

ONLY 12 - NO 18

Boston acoustics:

10, 12 - NO 18

Memphis MC:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18 (the only line besides their shit line that doesn't come higher than a 12)

PLEASE don't make me go on through the long list of popular SQ subs that DO NOT OFFER 18's

**** I can only really find 1... the FI's

*yawn* Let me know when you prove those 18's dont exist due to SQ reasons, rather than market sales reasons. Because a SQ 18 is "STUPID", right?
And, I guess I just enjoy pointing out where your 'opinion' shows your lack of experience or knowledge. Call me crazy, but its fun.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

*yawn* Let me know when you prove those 18's dont exist due to SQ reasons, rather than market sales reasons. Because a SQ 18 is "STUPID", right?
And, I guess I just enjoy pointing out where your 'opinion' shows your lack of experience or knowledge. Call me crazy, but its fun.

I was wondering if he has ever been to a WF event. They have 18" IBs all day all long.

 

[Mc_Hammer 10+ year member]

Lets go back to some lines of SQ subs...

Focal utopia:

5, 8, and 13 - NO 18

Focal Polyglass:

8, 11, and 13 - NO 18 (focal makes 18s in other lines)

Alumpro:

only offer's 10's and 12's - NO 18

JL W6V2:

8, 10, 12, 13 - NO 18 the original was made in an 18"... the new one required tooling for a basket that JL deemed "too expensive"... call them and ask

JL W7:

8, 10, 12, 13 - NO 18

Eclipse:

10's and 12's only- NO 18 Ti Pro 18" anyone?

Dynaudio:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18

DLS Ultimate nobelium:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18

DLS Ultimate iridium:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18 (but their SPL line does come in an 18... hmmm)

Soundsplinter RL-s:

12, 15 - NO 18 (soundsplinter ALSO offers an SPL sub in an 18) there was never a 3" lms 18"... ever because the T/s would be so jacked up, but your saying the Rls is an SPL sub... srsly?

DD 9100:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18 (hmmm like the only high end line they don't offer in an 18) im sure DD would be happy to make you one if you called and asked

Diamond audio:

8, 10, 12, 15 - NO 18

Cerwin vega:

8, 10, 12, 15 - NO 18 stroker 18"?

IDq:

10, 12 - NO 18

IDmax:

10, 12 - NO 18

SI mag:

12 - NO 18

alpine Type-x:

10, 12 - NO 18 (but the type-R comes in a 15)

Polk:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18

Helix:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18

Aura:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18 you sure about that?

Rainbows:

7, 8, 10, 12 - NO 18

Treo TSX:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18

Treo TE:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18

Treo TSi:

10, 12, 15 - NO 18 (treo is a good one, the ONLY subs they don't offer in 18's are their SQ oriented ones)

Dayton:

5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15 - NO 18

Arc Flatline:

ONLY 12 - NO 18

Boston acoustics:

10, 12 - NO 18

Memphis MC:

8, 10, 12 - NO 18 (the only line besides their shit line that doesn't come higher than a 12)

PLEASE don't make me go on through the long list of popular SQ subs that DO NOT OFFER 18's

**** I can only really find 1... the FI's

your a retard... period...

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I was wondering if he has ever been to a WF event. They have 18" IBs all day all long.

Shhhhhhhhh!

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

cotjones=least intelligent member on this board.

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[Grinder1989 5,000+ posts]

Audioholic +10 Cot Still in the ****ing negatives...........

But anyway, can I get some cliffs please? All I've read is Audioholic pwning Cot.

EDIT: nvm on the cliffs. Cot your an idiot, that is all. If ID made an 18" or if SI made and 18", I'd buy one and put it in a car for SQ.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

your a retard... period...

the original was made in an 18"... the new one required tooling for a basket that JL deemed "too expensive"... call them and ask

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Eclipse: 10's and 12's only- NO 18 Ti Pro 18" anyone?

Appearantly discontinued

Soundsplinter RL-s:12, 15 - NO 18 (soundsplinter ALSO offers an SPL sub in an 18) there was never a 3" lms 18"... ever because the T/s would be so jacked up, but your saying the Rls is an SPL sub... srsly?

I don't know what you are talking about, that doesn't even make sense... so i'm going to ignore it... THE RLS comes in a 12 and 15 ONLY... but their other line more for SPL use (RL-P) IS offered in an 18

DD 9100:10, 12, 15 - NO 18 (hmmm like the only high end line they don't offer in an 18) im sure DD would be happy to make you one if you called and asked

ok? so they don't make them USUALLY

Cerwin vega:8, 10, 12, 15 - NO 18 stroker 18"?

NOPE, no stroker 18

Aura:8, 10, 12 - NO 18 you sure about that?

if they did make them, they must be discontinued

You guys still aren't understanding this... it is by no means impossible to run an SQ setup with 18's, it just doesn't make much sence. and almost every Car audio manufacturer out there has figured this out, WHY CAN'T YOU??? EVEN a 15 can give MORE than enough headroom for an SQ setup, WHY GO BIGGER FOR THE HELL OF IT?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

You guys still aren't understanding this... it is by no means impossible to run an SQ setup with 18's, it just doesn't make much sence. and almost every Car audio manufacturer out there has figured this out, WHY CAN'T YOU??? EVEN a 15 can give MORE than enough headroom for an SQ setup, WHY GO BIGGER FOR THE HELL OF IT?

We've been telling you for pages that manufacturers dont offer many of these subs in 18" versions for sales reasons. THAT is the ONLY reason it doesn't make much sense. But here you've been trying to convince everyone it has to do with an 18" SQ sub being "STUPID". Its amazing you are asking why WE cant figure it out, when we've been trying to explain this [very simple] concept to you for pages.

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

You guys still aren't understanding this... it is by no means impossible to run an SQ setup with 18's, it just doesn't make much sence. and almost every Car audio manufacturer out there has figured this out, WHY CAN'T YOU??? EVEN a 15 can give MORE than enough headroom for an SQ setup, WHY GO BIGGER FOR THE HELL OF IT?

Are you even aware of the fact that it's physically possible to get a smaller sub louder than a bigger sub? Or are you under the impression that the size of the sub cannot be trumped by anything else..?

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Are you even aware of the fact that it's physically possible to get a smaller sub louder than a bigger sub? Or are you under the impression that the size of the sub cannot be trumped by anything else..?

You're highly mistaken. Cone size has everything to do with spl. My 10" funky pup dominates against my buddy's 1508.

 

[infamous_e46 5,000+ posts]

buy my atomic ap/spl 15's 300 plus shipping for the pair

 

[jamesw 10+ year member]

I mean im no audiologist but what about the people that want soundquality and want to get loud while doing it .. ie 18 inch woofers

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

everybody knows 18's can't be "fast"...unless you get an italian chip for them //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif