How low do most songs hit?

[Justinw303 10+ year member]

I'm talkin actual songs here, not Bass Tracks.

Do songs usually get any lower than 40 hz? Like, for instance, a Lil Jon production?

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[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

Rap hovers around mid 30's to 40's. Rock and Classical will go lower more often, but of course there are a lot of variables and different songs out there.

 

[Justinw303 10+ year member]

So if a subs frequency response begins at 40 hz, what happens when bass lower than that hits? Do you just not hear it?

 

[Decipha 10+ year member]

i'm pretty sure you will still hear it

i think it won't reproduce the sound accuratly though...

i may be wrong maybe some one else has more knowledge

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

It will be greatly attenuated...the sub will still try to play it, but won't be able to play it anywhere near the proper levels.

Baroque music is the lowest that I know of, dipping into the infrasonic...large pipe organs are capable of playing sustained 16Hz notes, not sure how many people's systems can do that sort of reference level in their homes though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Justinw303 10+ year member]

It will be greatly attenuated...the sub will still try to play it, but won't be able to play it anywhere near the proper levels.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif That sucks...

 

[jellyfish420 10+ year member]

It will be greatly attenuated...the sub will still try to play it, but won't be able to play it anywhere near the proper levels.
Baroque music is the lowest that I know of, dipping into the infrasonic...large pipe organs are capable of playing sustained 16Hz notes, not sure how many people's systems can do that sort of reference level in their homes though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

do you have a link or something to prove these infrasonic and 16Hz tones you speak of..... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

 

[cjjackson85 5,000+ posts]

I've had the "chest poundin'' bass, I'm ready for the "kicked in the nutz" bass...

 

[bigweez33]

on those built in crossovers, I've found that the bass in the music in general sounds best when its set around 80 Hz.

 

[Justinw303 10+ year member]

Alright, so a sub that doesn't respond lower than 40 hz isn't very good, right?

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

do you have a link or something to prove these infrasonic and 16Hz tones you speak of.....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pipe+organ+infrasonic

I can tell you from personal experience it's eerie as hell...I've delivered flowers to enough weddings at Duke Unversity's Chapel when the organist was warming up. Sub-20Hz tones at those sort of levels are really something //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

on those built in crossovers, I've found that the bass in the music in general sounds best when its set around 80 Hz.

Completely dependent on your equipment. It might sound best at 50Hz, or it might work at 80.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Alright, so a sub that doesn't respond lower than 40 hz isn't very good, right?

Generally, you want the sub stage to handle the bottom two octaves, from 20 to 80Hz - around which point sound starts to become directional. You don't want to be able to localize those lower frequencies.

 

[Justinw303 10+ year member]

Well, how do you think this sub would handle at 25 hz?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-lQLEZB1Dcku/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=67500&id=essential_info&i=575P18S4

I was really going to buy it until I noticed the freq. response.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Depends on the enclosure you put it in...since it's only an 8", I doubt the low frequency extension would be there - unless you stuck it in a folded horn or something.

True reference levels down low require lots of cone area (think 18") and lots of amplifier power. That's why the THX rating for LFE is so high - it simply takes a lot of displacement to move that much air.

 

[jellyfish420 10+ year member]

Well, how do you think this sub would handle at 25 hz?
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-lQLEZB1Dcku/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=67500&id=essential_info&i=575P18S4

I was really going to buy it until I noticed the freq. response.

personal experiance...those ****!

and jack... i'd love to hear a pipe organ playing sub 20Hz at those level,

sadly there is no pipe organs around here