How did Rainbow get to be such a huge boner?

[krisfnbz 10+ year member]

Apparently they are suppost to be really good speakers. I want to hear a pair!

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Have you noticed how many people have RSDs and love em? I think that's a well-deserved boner... cheap, good midbass, good output, and minimal problems.
Rainbow is expensive and a lot of people have problems. People rant and rave about the tweeters, but thats about it.

I don't even own rainbows anymore, but I had SLC's in my car and the midbass was AMAZING. I could run without subs and audition them and people asked me what sub I had. They shook the **** out of my front seats.

I chalk up those complaining to 1) poor installs, 2) buying a high end SQ set, and expecting extreme loudness from them, 3) both 1 and 2.

Here's what kills me... I can pick up a pair of MB Quart PCE 216s for
Few people buy them, though, because every time somone brings them up people go "MB Quarts have bright highs!!1!!1!1!!" But relatively few people have heard them. I've owned 4 or 5 sets of MB Quart components, and when installed and tuned correctly, they aren't bright at all.

Let's take the SLCs for example... They're in roughly the same price range, but I hear complaint after complaint after complaint about them. I've talked to 5 or 6 people who wanted rid of them because they were dissatisfied with em. Yet people still hump Rainbows' leg.

As far as the Germs go, you'd better be happy with those for what you pay for em. Whew.

For all those complaints that you hear, have you heard each one of those setups? Do you know how many people have purchased the SLC's? Thousands of people, and most were very well satisfied. I told you about those mb's in my gf's car... vomit... lol... sorry but they don't sound good AT ALL, even with eq etc.

Maybe the people dissatisfied w/ the rainbows have shitty installs.

+1

I've talked to lots of people who have very well deadened doors and the midbass *****.

There's got to be something wrong with their install or something, which series rainbows were they?

You've got to compare apples to apples, dude. Germs would be more or less equivalent with the QSDs. PCEs aren't anywhere near the Rainbow refs... by thousands of dollars lol.
No one I know has Rainbows, but I've talked to a lot of people who have Rainbows. Most people say MBQ is harsh out of hearsay, and have never heard em personally. I talk directly to people who have Rainbows.

So you've never actually heard any?

What I'm saying is, I've talked to lots of people who own them. People who bash MBQ just heard from a dude who heard from a dude usually...

I've heard many sets of the q's, and multiple sets of rainbows. MBQ's have lacked midbass more than any other comp set I've ever heard, in properlly setup installs no less. Rainbows have owned them in midbass and midrange clarity, and the tweeters sound natural, I've never heard an MBQ tweet that sounded natural.

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

its all Don's fault

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[krisfnbz 10+ year member]

This is going to turn into a very good long thread indeed. and I will be subscribed the entire time!

 

[2wheeler 10+ year member]

anyway.... the rainbow boner i think has calmed down a lot here.

This thread = pulling the (forum) boner out, wiping it off and taking a real look at the target of your love...

 

[belbo 10+ year member]

Here's my problem with Rainbow: CUSTOMER SERVICE. I've had a tweeter sent off for warranty work for months now. It was sent off sometime in November and haven't got anything back. I bought them because of reputation and through advice of reps on this board. These guys were great and had nothing to do with Rainbow's slow, or in my case ignoring of warranty claims. It got so bad I offered to buy another tweeter but I can't even get a separate tweeter from them. The install has halted do to this waiting.

My advice is to buy something else regardless of sound quality because of customer service issues. I talked to a dealer in Atlanta that dropped the Rainbow line because of extended warranty times.

I will never buy another Rainbow product of any sort. As soon as the tweeter shows up from warranty claims, the whole CMX set will go up for sale here. That's assuming I ever get the tweeter back at all. All in all and wasted $330, if I were you ghuys, I would avoid the Rainbow line. They don't honor warranties, at least not in a timely manner and part replacement has been impossible.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

heh nismo, it sounds like your experience is the opposite of mine with mbqs. I played my PSD-216 set with the HPF at 40hz without problems. Things freakin pounded.

And about the people who I've talked to who think the midbass output *****... they're not stupid, and know how to install a set of comps.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

This thread = pulling the (forum) boner out, wiping it off and taking a real look at the target of your love...

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I think she was picked up right before the last call at a crusty bar on the outskirts of Detroit.

 

[Etac 10+ year member]

Here's my problem with Rainbow: CUSTOMER SERVICE. I've had a tweeter sent off for warranty work for months now. It was sent off sometime in November and haven't got anything back. I bought them because of reputation and through advice of reps on this board. These guys were great and had nothing to do with Rainbow's slow, or in my case ignoring of warranty claims. It got so bad I offered to buy another tweeter but I can't even get a separate tweeter from them. The install has halted do to this waiting.
My advice is to buy something else regardless of sound quality because of customer service issues. I talked to a dealer in Atlanta that dropped the Rainbow line because of extended warranty times.

I will never buy another Rainbow product of any sort. As soon as the tweeter shows up from warranty claims, the whole CMX set will go up for sale here. That's assuming I ever get the tweeter back at all. All in all and wasted $330, if I were you ghuys, I would avoid the Rainbow line. They don't honor warranties, at least not in a timely manner and part replacement has been impossible.

yea i blew a mid and im about to find out about sending it in... someone else told me the same thing, that they've been waiting a couple months with no word.

and if i do get it warrantied.. im putting my mids up for sale.. i mixed the cal tweet with my old memphis mids.. and using the rainbow crossover.. im in love with how it sounds

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Well, here's another data point for you guys; I used warranty service 3 times and always received a new replacement within ~6 weeks. Which I consider good, considering the round trip shipping to/from Germany. Didn't have to use it for tweeters though; just woofers. If I ever buy another set of speakers, they'll be Rainbows. Though I can't imagine really going any farther up the line; the power line CS are pretty much the best reasonably priced 2 way set you can get from Rainbow when it comes to loud&clear except for maybe the Platinums.. Those of you with long delays for warranty service, are you sending them back through Don or through Premier?

 

[belbo 10+ year member]

I don't want to mention the guy by name, it wasn't his fault, it's the parent company's. Well there are 3 people on here I know of that sell Rainbows: Premier, Don (6speedcoupe) and Manny (3.5Max), all i will tell you is it's one of those guys that I bought from and sent the tweeter back through. From what they have said, they have been trying to make it happen but just get the run around and I have no reason to not believe them. They're all great guys and knowledgable. I think people should still buy from them but my suggestion is to buy another brand from them. If customer service means anything to you, steer clear of Rainbow.

Oh yeah, forget about warranty work for a minute. I got so tired of waiting that I offered to just buy another tweeter and asked for a price. I can't even get an answer on that and I asked 2 of the above mentioned sellers. Does rainbow have parts available, is their distribution system flawed and what will you do if something goes bad after warranty is up? Will other parts be available then or will you be left with the rest of a partial component system? Headless had a decent experience but others have had bad ones. Roll the dice and take your chances.

I'm sure the speaker's sound is great, I'll tell you what I think if they ever allow me a complete system. I used to not worry about stuff like this when making product selections but this is illustrative of how important other aspects of a business can be when choosing products.

Well, here's another data point for you guys; I used warranty service 3 times and always received a new replacement within ~6 weeks. Which I consider good, considering the round trip shipping to/from Germany. Didn't have to use it for tweeters though; just woofers. If I ever buy another set of speakers, they'll be Rainbows. Though I can't imagine really going any farther up the line; the power line CS are pretty much the best reasonably priced 2 way set you can get from Rainbow when it comes to loud&clear except for maybe the Platinums.. Those of you with long delays for warranty service, are you sending them back through Don or through Premier?

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

This thread = teh funnAy.

Its quite coincendental that this was brought up now as I was doing my taxes and realized how many sets I sold on THIS FORUM alone. Wanna take a guess? SLCs ONLY - 279 sets. That is of course for just 2007. Oddly I do not see near 279 complaints. Its simple ... someone likes something .. they *may* post about it and then itll die down quickly because well it's a boner. Someone doesnt like something it becomes like a tabloid and everyone is interested. Make sense?

Comparing to MBQs? Dollar for dollar product to product? Surely you jest. I will call them bright and lacking midbass. Have I heard them? Unfortunately yes and I have been doing this before you grasped your first breath.

Now YOU are sitting here making a post about something that YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN heard, but you are disappointed in those that follow hearsay about the MBQs. Arent you basing your info on hearsay? Kettle -> Black.

Am I here to defend the product because Im biased or because I sell them? Absolutely not. Want to know my other offerings? We can start small..

Morel

Dynaudio

Brax/Helix

Audison/Hertz

Sinfoni

CriticalMass

DLS

So no, biased thoughts and sales tactics are here.

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

This thread = teh funnAy.

Its quite coincendental that this was brought up now as I was doing my taxes and realized how many sets I sold on THIS FORUM alone. Wanna take a guess? SLCs ONLY - 279 sets. That is of course for just 2007. Oddly I do not see near 279 complaints. Its simple ... someone likes something .. they *may* post about it and then itll die down quickly because well it's a boner. Someone doesnt like something it becomes like a tabloid and everyone is interested. Make sense?

Comparing to MBQs? Dollar for dollar product to product? Surely you jest. I will call them bright and lacking midbass. Have I heard them? Unfortunately yes and I have been doing this before you grasped your first breath.

Now YOU are sitting here making a post about something that YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN heard, but you are disappointed in those that follow hearsay about the MBQs. Arent you basing your info on hearsay? Kettle -> Black.

Am I here to defend the product because Im biased or because I sell them? Absolutely not. Want to know my other offerings? We can start small..

Morel

Dynaudio

Brax/Helix

Audison/Hertz

Sinfoni

CriticalMass

DLS

TRU Technology

SEAS

So no, biased thoughts and sales tactics are used here.

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

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[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

I don't want to mention the guy by name, it wasn't his fault, it's the parent company's. Well there are 3 people on here I know of that sell Rainbows: Premier, Don (6speedcoupe) and Manny (3.5Max), all i will tell you is it's one of those guys that I bought from and sent the tweeter back through. From what they have said, they have been trying to make it happen but just get the run around and I have no reason to not believe them. They're all great guys and knowledgable. I think people should still buy from them but my suggestion is to buy another brand from them. If customer service means anything to you, steer clear of Rainbow.
Oh yeah, forget about warranty work for a minute. I got so tired of waiting that I offered to just buy another tweeter and asked for a price. I can't even get an answer on that and I asked 2 of the above mentioned sellers. Does rainbow have parts available, is their distribution system flawed and what will you do if something goes bad after warranty is up? Will other parts be available then or will you be left with the rest of a partial component system? Headless had a decent experience but others have had bad ones. Roll the dice and take your chances.

I'm sure the speaker's sound is great, I'll tell you what I think if they ever allow me a complete system. I used to not worry about stuff like this when making product selections but this is illustrative of how important other aspects of a business can be when choosing products.

As we both know it was me that you spoke to regarding the replacement. I replied again to you this week informing you the tweeter is on its way back to your original seller and you should have it soon. If I would have known of the issue sooner I would have tried to help more earlier. Of course there was no point in selling your another just to out your expenses further if it is on it's way back.

In regards to the the warranty service. I openly admit it has been lacking as of lately due to the US distributor. I have been on top of them like flies on **** lately and they directly assured me this will not happen further.

New policy is now MAXIMUM 48hrs to get and RMA number issued. MAXIMUM 2 weeks upon arrival to get defective product repaired/replaced and back out. While this may still seem somewhat lengthy there is still a cost to them to ship back&forth all defectives to Germany and hand out new products without upfront compensation. Whether I agree with this or not is a moot point, but there will be some major changes in their warranty dept.

Only time will tell if this holds true, but so far it has. If it doesnt, then all my orders start be sourced directly from Germany again.