How did Rainbow get to be such a huge boner?

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

bump for teh fanbois

 

[headless 10+ year member]

I'd rant and rave about my Rainbows here, but nobody here wants to actually throw down some cash to buy them anyway, and I'm too busy listening to their gloriously ungodly clear loudness to care whether you perceive they are good value or not. The Rainbows in my car get so loud all by themselves that my side mirrors (in heavily deadened doors) shake badly enough that I can't see anything in them. Note that I posted my extreme satisfaction for these speakers, then essentially dissapeared for a few months. Why? Because i'm happy; why post about them when they're awesome and i'm satisfied? On the other hand, someone with problems for whatever reason is going to post here, repeatedly and loudly... and so you get a perception that people don't like them. But when someone asks about what to buy, people come and recommend them - because they are happy with them. See the pattern? People who dislike post when they are unhappy...people who like post when people ask about what to buy, saying they recommend them. Thus the '2 faces' that you referred to as far as people not being satisfied 'but still recommending them'.

I think the people you see complaining about their experiences buy the lower quality lines from Rainbow, pair them with very loud sub stages (2x12w7's @ 600$+ each matched with a pair of rainbow SLC's? Come on now, give me a ****ing break) and then are confused when they don't match up well. Often times, they are shoddily installed on top of that, leaving much to be desired. News flash; if you want to spend 800$+ on an excessively loud sub stage - you need to spend that kind of cash on your front stage to find something directly comparable. I think the lower rainbow lines are excellent - when they are matched with modest sub stages in the same price range.

 

[Etac 10+ year member]

Have you noticed how many people have RSDs and love em? I think that's a well-deserved boner... cheap, good midbass, good output, and minimal problems.
Rainbow is expensive and a lot of people have problems. People rant and rave about the tweeters, but thats about it.

minimal problems? im not saying its not within an acceptable range.. but i've seen quite a few post with ppl having an issue with them, so thats kind of an unfair statement (rsds)

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

I'd rant and rave about my Rainbows here, but nobody here wants to actually throw down some cash to buy them anyway, and I'm too busy listening to their gloriously ungodly clear loudness to care whether you perceive they are good value or not. The Rainbows in my car get so loud all by themselves that my side mirrors (in heavily deadened doors) shake badly enough that I can't see anything in them. Note that I posted my extreme satisfaction for these speakers, then essentially dissapeared for a few months. Why? Because i'm happy; why post about them when they're awesome and i'm satisfied? On the other hand, someone with problems for whatever reason is going to post here, repeatedly and loudly... and so you get a perception that people don't like them. But when someone asks about what to buy, people come and recommend them - because they are happy with them. See the pattern? People who dislike post when they are unhappy...people who like post when people ask about what to buy, saying they recommend them. Thus the '2 faces' that you referred to as far as people not being satisfied 'but still recommending them'.
I think the people you see complaining about their experiences buy the lower quality lines from Rainbow, pair them with very loud sub stages (2x12w7's @ 600$+ each matched with a pair of rainbow SLC's? Come on now, give me a ****ing break) and then are confused when they don't match up well. Often times, they are shoddily installed on top of that, leaving much to be desired. News flash; if you want to spend 800$+ on an excessively loud sub stage - you need to spend that kind of cash on your front stage to find something directly comparable. I think the lower rainbow lines are excellent - when they are matched with modest sub stages in the same price range.

+1...still lovin my Germs. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

+1...still lovin my Germs. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

x2....I love mine so much I bought a second pair of mids to run an active 3way with.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Here's what kills me... I can pick up a pair of MB Quart PCE 216s for

Few people buy them, though, because every time somone brings them up people go "MB Quarts have bright highs!!1!!1!1!!" But relatively few people have heard them. I've owned 4 or 5 sets of MB Quart components, and when installed and tuned correctly, they aren't bright at all.

Let's take the SLCs for example... They're in roughly the same price range, but I hear complaint after complaint after complaint about them. I've talked to 5 or 6 people who wanted rid of them because they were dissatisfied with em. Yet people still hump Rainbows' leg.

As far as the Germs go, you'd better be happy with those for what you pay for em. Whew.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Maybe the people dissatisfied w/ the rainbows have shitty installs.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

I've talked to lots of people who have very well deadened doors and the midbass sucks.

 

[bikinpunk 10+ year member]

Another reason is people may go with Rainbow (and honestly was one of my reasons initially) is because they're not a well known brand outside of the forums.

 

[spl guru 10+ year member]

Moar product out there = moar people who are satsifiedand moar who have problems

Fvcking newb.

Did you just learn to spell?

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Did you just learn to spell?

He's just trying to be cool. It's just like the people that go "lawl" or "nom nom."

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

Here's what kills me... I can pick up a pair of MB Quart PCE 216s for
Few people buy them, though, because every time somone brings them up people go "MB Quarts have bright highs!!1!!1!1!!" But relatively few people have heard them. I've owned 4 or 5 sets of MB Quart components, and when installed and tuned correctly, they aren't bright at all.

Let's take the SLCs for example... They're in roughly the same price range, but I hear complaint after complaint after complaint about them. I've talked to 5 or 6 people who wanted rid of them because they were dissatisfied with em. Yet people still hump Rainbows' leg.

As far as the Germs go, you'd better be happy with those for what you pay for em. Whew.

IMO the Germs blow the MB's out of the water. I've had a 3way set of the Reference line components and had a friend who was running the PCE's and it's not even a close comparison. You have to compare apples to apples! A set of well tuned rainbows I'm sure would also sound nicely. You ***** about people complaining about the MB Quarts and never actually hearing them themselves and your doing the same thing complaining about rainbows when you've never heard them. I think if you tune and deaden well enough you can make almost any component set sound decent. All I know is that the Germs have the most detail out of a lot of component sets I've heard. $350 isn't all that much for a set of germs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[spl guru 10+ year member]

He's just trying to be cool. It's just like the people that go "lawl" or "nom nom."

Moar? Just saying, its hard to criticize people when you cant spell.. naw mean?

 

[headless 10+ year member]

IMO, if it takes a good install and lots of tuning to make the MBQ's NOT sound 'bright' - they sound 'bright'. You're just fixing the brightness (nasty volume spikes at some freqs) with an EQ.

Some people will always be dissatisfied with a product that is good; i've seen people whine about the quality of plenty of high end speakers. I take such opinions with a large grain of salt; the proof is in the pudding.

Anyway, the Power Line CS utterly obliterates MBQ's excuse for loud clarity. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I've heard the PCE's and the Germaniums and i'd go for the Germaniums no questions asked. They are way more flexible of a set and they just sound smoother and more balanced. Moving up into the Profi and Power Line brings you well beyond the 'best' MBQ has to offer (QSD series); perhaps you should listen to a few sets and decide for yourself.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

You've got to compare apples to apples, dude. Germs would be more or less equivalent with the QSDs. PCEs aren't anywhere near the Rainbow refs... by thousands of dollars lol.

No one I know has Rainbows, but I've talked to a lot of people who have Rainbows. Most people say MBQ is harsh out of hearsay, and have never heard em personally. I talk directly to people who have Rainbows.