getting my front comps to sound like they are infront of me

[Etac 10+ year member]

its funny, this is the same issue i been messing around with all week... i've tried my speakers in like 5 positions each from up high to down low and the best thing i've come up with (at least for my car) is everything in the kicks... on axis to the driver, or if you want both... then aimed towards center of the car

having either of the speakers up high on the drivers side seems to compeltely dominate my soundstage, and even with TA.. its able to be localized and doesnt sound right where its coming from.. another problem is the dash.. if oyu got mids down low and tweets up high.. the dash kinda seperates the sounds isntead of letting them blend in...

and ontop of that i figured out it seems to sound best to me, if both speakers seem like there coming at you from remotely the same angle... which is easier done, the further they are from you

speaker height doesnt matter so much on the passenger side because by the time it gets to the driver.. its had time to develop and spread out.. and usually has less stuff in the way on its journey, it has time to raise in height... direction is more important

distance is the most important thing in making a system sound good and being unable to localize any specific speaker.. imo...

the one thing i did like about having the speakers up high tho is, it does make it seem harder to localize the subs

 

[reed dollaz 10+ year member]

its funny, this is the same issue i been messing around with all week... i've tried my speakers in like 5 positions each from up high to down low and the best thing i've come up with (at least for my car) is everything in the kicks... on axis to the driver, or if you want both... then aimed towards center of the car
having either of the speakers up high on the drivers side seems to compeltely dominate my soundstage, and even with TA.. its able to be localized and doesnt sound right where its coming from.. another problem is the dash.. if oyu got mids down low and tweets up high.. the dash kinda seperates the sounds isntead of letting them blend in...

and ontop of that i figured out it seems to sound best to me, if both speakers seem like there coming at you from remotely the same angle... which is easier done, the further they are from you

speaker height doesnt matter so much on the passenger side because by the time it gets to the driver.. its had time to develop and spread out.. and usually has less stuff in the way on its journey, it has time to raise in height... direction is more important

distance is the most important thing in making a system sound good and being unable to localize any specific speaker.. imo...

the one thing i did like about having the speakers up high tho is, it does make it seem harder to localize the subs

ok well my tweets arent a problem since i can swivel them to aim at me. but my mids in my door face the opposite door. so i guess i can make a different MDF ring to slightly angle each of them towards me then. hell i dont know. cuz i dont want to have to balance it to the right for my pleasure, then have my passenger suffer from a dominated right side. that is embarassing

 

[Etac 10+ year member]

well the main reason iw ent 3 way is to have control over the angle of my lower midranges....

it does make a difference... and unless you have dedicated eq's to each channel its gonna be kinda hard to change.. you could use resistors i guess ti help balance out the speakers.. but that would only work for the drivers side..

getting the system to sound great to both sides is alot harder than getting it to sound great to one

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

your problem is worrying about the passenger seat //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Crzy 10+ year member]

i aimed both my tweets which are in the a pillar at the center of my frotn seats and and have it set to play a tad more on the right then the left with my HU and it sounds like my front stage is coming from my windsheild....

 

[audiobill5]

Interesting, any buddy else have good luck doing this?

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

put the tweeters in the back of your rear view mirror. works well.

 

[reed dollaz 10+ year member]

im going to aim my tweets at the windshield and use them as an audible rebound. angle them to bounce off of the winshield towards each seat. and yes im worried about my passenger. i can get it to sound just fine for me by balancing it, but i want my passenger to enjoy it as much as i do. im going to try switching polaritys. nismos14 told me to do this before i even started the thread. and i asked my friend at the audio shop and he said that would help, but also getting an RF 3sixty would help also (and in the future i could use it for an active setup as well.

 

[Corey69 10+ year member]

If your going to buy an expensive processor you might as well get some better speakers too.

 

[reed dollaz 10+ year member]

If your going to buy an expensive processor you might as well get some better speakers too.

lol there is nothing not good about my speakers