Gang problem

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

true, but it's better than nothing. That is the ultimate laziness, to have a simple tool like that and not even use it.

 

[937DYTBOI 5,000+ posts]

Back to the gang problem

 

[dbhittin 5,000+ posts]

i cant find it but.. they had 3 underground tavern's all 2500sq each.. tons of halogen lights or what ever the big ones are.. thousands of plants. the PUD noticed they were loosing money cause of the power they were using, but they got a lead someone was on too them and got most the plant out of there, but they still got busted... kid came to school everyday with hella money, tight cars all the time

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

Hey I'm not saying people don't have hard lives, Mine wasn't a cakewalk, and I joined the Marines to get out of my hometown. Learned some dicipline, and how to work hard and never give up. I positively used my fighting spirit for the betterment of my own life rather than letting life wash over me like a wave and wondering why it didn't turn out the way I wanted like so many these days. I learned real early that I was owed nothing and if I wanted someting for myself the only way it would happen was if I made it happen.

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

But I wasn't willing to hurt anyone else in the process, unlike gang douchebags who don't care about anybody but themselves.

 

[JLCivic 10+ year member]

Hey I'm not saying people don't have hard lives, Mine wasn't a cakewalk, and I joined the Marines to get out of my hometown. Learned some dicipline, and how to work hard and never give up. I positively used my fighting spirit for the betterment of my own life rather than letting life wash over me like a wave and wondering why it didn't turn out the way I wanted like so many these days. I learned real early that I was owed nothing and if I wanted someting for myself the only way it would happen was if I made it happen.

If even HALF of the kids I see today had that attitude, the world would be a better place. So many of them believe that the world owes them something. They think "hey, I didn't ask to be born so somebody better take care of me."

They get break after break. I view high school's role as this: preparing students for what is after high school. Babying them and giving them break after break does NOT teach them anything other than they will try that in college or the "real world," and it will be a very eye opening experience.

 

[937DYTBOI 5,000+ posts]

I feel u and i see the marines has molded u. But do u think that most of those people that do bad things will even survive in the marines or take actions like urself to make them a better person. i dont think so personally but society has made many people that way which is sad, i feel people should have good enough parents to guide them in the right direction. But people that do jone gangs, or murder may jus recieve that mentality from the neighborhood they were forced to be raised in and thats all they know. It's sad to see people grow up that way and countinue lifes bad traditions

 

[JLCivic 10+ year member]

I feel u and i see the marines has molded u. But do u think that most of those people that do bad things will even survive in the marines or take actions like urself to make them a better person. i dont think so personally but society has made many people that way which is sad, i feel people should have good enough parents to guide them in the right direction. But people that do jone gangs, or murder may jus recieve that mentality from the neighborhood they were forced to be raised in and thats all they know. It's sad to see people grow up that way and countinue lifes bad traditions

I understand that many kids grow up in bad neighborhoods, but at some point, they have to realize that killing is wrong/illegal/whatever. Ofcourse it is easier for them to continue that self destructive cycle than it is to do something about it.

 

[937DYTBOI 5,000+ posts]

True, im wit u all the way on that one.

 

[dbhittin 5,000+ posts]

ima hardcore o g

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

I blame the parents. If you live in the projects and can't provide a life for a child, you shouldn't have one. Just because you can is no reason to have a kid. I have been married 4 years now and watched all my friends my age have kids, and I just don't want to have on right now, because I don't want that responsibilty. I have a dog, and I don't even get to give hime the attention he deserves, why would it be fair to a child if I can't own my dog to my satisfaction/standards?!

 

[JLCivic 10+ year member]

I blame the parents. If you live in the projects and can't provide a life for a child, you shouldn't have one. Just because you can is no reason to have a kid. I have been married 4 years now and watched all my friends my age have kids, and I just don't want to have on right now, because I don't want that responsibilty. I have a dog, and I don't even get to give hime the attention he deserves, why would it be fair to a child if I can't own my dog to my satisfaction/standards?!

It takes very little to have a kid but a whole lot to be a parent. That is the distinction. I am a firm believer in the notion of "if you can't afford kids, don't have them." It should not be my responsibility(or that of anyone else) to pay for somebody to have a kid.

People on welfare have more kids, they get more money. Christ, welfare housing around here is nicer than the apartment I have. I don't have hardwood floors, and 2-3 bedrooms. There is something very wrong with the system.

For the most part, kids in gangs is just another symptom of the breakdown of families in this country. There are times when kids from solid families join gangs(or get into other harmful situations). This is one of the reasons why I never want children. Parenting will only go so far. I have seen good parents have kids who have turned into punks. The parents try their best, work with the schools, etc, but sometimes, it just doesn't matter.

 

[///M5 10+ year member]

Gangsta or wannabe intelligence proved here:

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1526/5766164.html

It sucks that we live in only country considered a world power where we have developed a culture that aspires to be unintelligent.

 

[Acidburn 5,000+ posts]

I work in public education and imo, the biggest problems with education today:
unrealistic mandates

the flood of liberal attitudes in education(don't want little johnny's self esteem to be harmed)

parents who have lost any and all clue they might have had about what is fair and reasonable expectations of schools and/or teachers.

For every teacher these days who might nail a kid for their spelling, there will be 5 parents crying about "oh just give my kid another chance" or "well, you know what word they were trying to spell so what's the big deal."

TRUST ME, deal with a few insane parents and you would know exactly what I am talking about.

For those who think it is "cool" to not know how to spell, your future employers won't find it so cool when you can't spell the easiest words on a job application.

i wrote a set of papers on this very topic this semester

the conflict between teachers and parents

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

post em up, i'd like to read them