First T3 TSS 18 ever ......

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I would give you Kyle K's number but i dont like giving out that info. PM him and he will clarify it up for you. Hell even the secretary at TC will tell you this.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif I have Kyle's number... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

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[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

hahahaha.... So then you bought the patent from T3 as well right?

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif I have Kyle's number... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
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Call him. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

This guy must be dense.

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[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

1) Do you not understand the concept of purchasing a United States patent at the bankruptcy auction? The intellectual property (Ornamental appearance patent) is no longer property of anybody but Fi, it does not belong to Thilo any longer. It was originally designed and patented by Thilo for Eclipse, but after the QC issues they left TC sounds for an oriental build house. Thilo, still had the intellectual property (Known as an ornamental appearance patent) cornering the United States market. Which a patent is worthless, if you do not enforce it. Which is why you see so many people using it now..because it was not enforced, as it takes money to enforce it. Again this is for a 6 spoke appearance, they can use the 4 spoke (Which is the 10" and 12" appearance) all day every day as Thilo still owns that patent and could care less about it.

2) TC doesn't own the spider adapter, because we tooled one of our own. The spiders that are available on the market will not do what we want to do, so we tooled those as well...which is really funny how you have "seen" everything because what you think you may have seen..really is not what it is.

3) You held the original prototype in your hand, that was nearly a year ago. It is sitting in the corner of the office where it has been for months. You have not seen, held, smelled, touched, or licked the real SMD, much less the new motor technology that we have developed.

As I said, you know..nothing.

Edit:

Here's a link.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1017260

Read.

I know plenty, TC will still use the same basket on their 15 and so will T3. Just wait and see. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

This guy must be dense.
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[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

so what happens now that it seems t3 ripped off FI's patent?

 

[loudmofo 5,000+ posts]

t3 FTMFW //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

so

from what i understand t3 cannot sell a speaker with that basket...new basket or not........

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

so
from what i understand t3 cannot sell a speaker with that basket...new basket or not........

Correct.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=B-MIAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Anything that appears to look like that as it is an appearance patent can not be used without an agreement being reached between the patent holder and the party that wants to license it, physical size and dimensions do not matter. It can not look like this appearance patent. It can be from 1/2" in diameter..to 54 feet in diameter, or even a logo tooled into the frame. It only has to be "Substantially similar" in order to be seen as infringing upon the patent. That 'Design Patent' was previously owned by Thilo, and was sold at his bankruptcy auction of TC Sounds.

Now, the following designs Thilo still owns, and purchased back at his own bankruptcy auction. These are his babies, we have nothing to do with these at all, anybody can use these at their own risk of being sued by Thilo for infringing on his design patents that he still owns.

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=9wcMAAAAEBAJ&dq=D455733

http://www.google.com/patents?id=FEwPAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false

 

[boilermaker-744 10+ year member]

I dont really care who owns the patent, all i know is JD's (T3) subs are going to be in my ride, because they make the best subs out there!

T3 ROCKS

 

[JohnathanDemuth]

I would like to say something very simple here.

If the guys on here want to chat online about this, then contact me directly as you should.

This should be between ownership..... not employees.

There are so many things involved in something like this.... and so many people talking about "facts" which are actually "heresay". I haven't laughed in anyones face, but in fact have tried to respectfully discuss these things directly with those involved.

We respect all parties involved with this particular appearance patent, have tried to contact and be open about all intentions with all parties involved with this appearance patent. We have heard absolutely nothing back from anyone.

Hence, we will continue to exercise our rights by selling a product that we have branded a company on for 4 years now and were allowed to use by the patents creator and tooling owner (Same guy) where the baskets are actually manufactured.....and that we have tooled other products to fit this product in question.

If anyone has issue, we can be reached by phone, email, fax and by mail.

All which are easily found on the internet, yellow pages, etc.

We are also very prepared to protect the 4 years of hard work that we have put into this company and our products.

Respectfully,

Johnathan

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

I would like to say something very simple here.
There are so many things involved in something like this.... and so many people talking about "facts" which are actually "heresay". I haven't laughed in anyones face, but in fact have tried to respectfully discuss these things directly with those involved.

We respect all parties involved with this particular appearance patent, have tried to contact and be open about all intentions with all parties involved with this appearance patent. We have heard absolutely nothing back from anyone.

Hence, we will continue to exercise our rights by selling a product that we have branded a company on for 4 years now and were allowed to use by the patents creator and tooling owner (Same guy) where the baskets are actually manufactured.....and that we have tooled other products to fit this product in question.

If anyone has issue, we can be reached by phone, email, fax and by mail.

All which are easily found on the internet, yellow pages, etc.

We are also very prepared to protect the 4 years of hard work that we have put into this company and our products.

Respectfully,

Johnathan

Good to see the real guy posting, thanks for the clarification. There's soo many impersonations of your name.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

May have over-exagerated by saying "lol in face" but thats how it seemed to me.

I will still stand by T3 not going anywhere come the 6.5 year mark. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

 

[mrogowski 5,000+ posts]

1) Do you not understand the concept of purchasing a United States patent at the bankruptcy auction? The intellectual property (Ornamental appearance patent) is no longer property of anybody but Fi, it does not belong to Thilo any longer. It was originally designed and patented by Thilo for Eclipse, but after the QC issues they left TC sounds for an oriental build house. Thilo, still had the intellectual property (Known as an ornamental appearance patent) cornering the United States market. Which a patent is worthless, if you do not enforce it. Which is why you see so many people using it now..because it was not enforced, as it takes money to enforce it. Again this is for a 6 spoke appearance, they can use the 4 spoke (Which is the 10" and 12" appearance) all day every day as Thilo still owns that patent and could care less about it.

2) TC doesn't own the spider adapter, because we tooled one of our own. The spiders that are available on the market will not do what we want to do, so we tooled those as well...which is really funny how you have "seen" everything because what you think you may have seen..really is not what it is.

3) You held the original prototype in your hand, that was nearly a year ago. It is sitting in the corner of the office where it has been for months. You have not seen, held, smelled, touched, or licked the real SMD, much less the new motor technology that we have developed.

As I said, you know..nothing.

Edit:

Here's a link.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1017260

Read.

I still wish I could have made it down there for the auction. Not so much to buy anything but to see the faces behind the names.

Nick, give Scott heck for me too since he never did return my call about that auction!

 

[mrogowski 5,000+ posts]

Good to see the real guy posting, thanks for the clarification. There's soo many impersonations of your name.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
May have over-exagerated by saying "lol in face" but thats how it seemed to me.

I will still stand by T3 not going anywhere come the 6.5 year mark. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

Aren't there like four JD's posting on this forum? Frankly, its hard to tell who the right one is //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif