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<blockquote data-quote="NDMstang65" data-source="post: 6225011" data-attributes="member: 544576">Correct.<a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=B-MIAAAAEBAJ&amp;amp;printsec=drawing&amp;amp;zoom=4#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;f=false" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/patents?id=B-MIAAAAEBAJ&amp;amp;printsec=drawing&amp;amp;zoom=4#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;f=false</a>Anything that appears to look like that as it is an appearance patent can not be used without an agreement being reached between the patent holder and the party that wants to license it, physical size and dimensions do not matter. It can not look like this appearance patent. It can be from 1/2&quot; in diameter..to 54 feet in diameter, or even a logo tooled into the frame. It only has to be &quot;Substantially similar&quot; in order to be seen as infringing upon the patent. That &#039;Design Patent&#039; was previously owned by Thilo, and was sold at his bankruptcy auction of TC Sounds.Now, the following designs Thilo still owns, and purchased back at his own bankruptcy auction. These are his babies, we have nothing to do with these at all, anybody can use these at their own risk of being sued by Thilo for infringing on his design patents that he still owns.<a href="http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=9wcMAAAAEBAJ&amp;amp;dq=D455733" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=9wcMAAAAEBAJ&amp;amp;dq=D455733</a><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=FEwPAAAAEBAJ&amp;amp;printsec=drawing&amp;amp;zoom=4#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;f=false" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/patents?id=FEwPAAAAEBAJ&amp;amp;printsec=drawing&amp;amp;zoom=4#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;f=false</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="NDMstang65, post: 6225011, member: 544576"] Correct. [URL="http://www.google.com/patents?id=B-MIAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false"]http://www.google.com/patents?id=B-MIAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false[/URL] Anything that appears to look like that as it is an appearance patent can not be used without an agreement being reached between the patent holder and the party that wants to license it, physical size and dimensions do not matter. It can not look like this appearance patent. It can be from 1/2" in diameter..to 54 feet in diameter, or even a logo tooled into the frame. It only has to be "Substantially similar" in order to be seen as infringing upon the patent. That 'Design Patent' was previously owned by Thilo, and was sold at his bankruptcy auction of TC Sounds. Now, the following designs Thilo still owns, and purchased back at his own bankruptcy auction. These are his babies, we have nothing to do with these at all, anybody can use these at their own risk of being sued by Thilo for infringing on his design patents that he still owns. [URL="http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=9wcMAAAAEBAJ&dq=D455733"]http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=9wcMAAAAEBAJ&dq=D455733[/URL] [URL="http://www.google.com/patents?id=FEwPAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false"]http://www.google.com/patents?id=FEwPAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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