First system, i have no idea what i should get with my dub 10's

[supyall 10+ year member]

So i'm putting my first system together, i've already ordered 2 Rockford Fosgate prime R1 10" subs in a sealed box, plus a wiring kit (since they were both on sale ;D).

I don't know the first thing about amps, so I want to get some "knowledgable" opinions //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

The specs are:

Woofer Impedance: (2) 4-Ohm SVC, Internally wired in parallel to create a 2-Ohm amplifier load

Power Handling: 300 Watts RMS, 600 Watts Max

As you may imagine I really don't know what all this means, and how it coincides with the amplifier.

So I come to you audio enthusiasts begging for some help to hook a brotha up. I'm a half and half rock/metal and hip hop kinda guy, which is why I went with the 10's in a sealed box. I'm much more into Sound Quality than i am giant, rumbley, drown out the music bass hits (if all this helps).

I'm not afraid to spend a little dough to get a GOOD amp, but I also want to stay in the $150 or less range (though i may go up to 200). My friend has an 800w RF amp he wants to sell for 200, but i'm thinking thats TOO powerful for the speakers, and i definitely want them to last... not blow them in 1 year. So help me out bro's, hook me up with some good info here. Teach me.

+1 internets to all who help out.

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[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Amazon.com: Rockford Fosgate Punch 300-Watt Mono Amplifier: Electronics

Dont expect much. Those subs are not very good. If you just want a little bass it will be fine

 

[supyall 10+ year member]

I also just realized that in the specs for the Speaker Connector section: Up to 12 AWG compression terminals.

and I ordered this kit: DB Link PK4Z 4 Gauge Power Series Amplifier Installation Kit

Did I screw up already? lol if so lemmee know what kind of wiring i need to have.

Thanks to all in advance.

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

stick with 300-600 watts rms at 2 ohms .what you should do is get an amp that does more power at 1 ohm like 1000 watt srms at 1 ohm and 500 watts rms at 2 ohms that way if you want to change your woofers later it will give you more options

 

[supyall 10+ year member]

Amazon.com: Rockford Fosgate Punch 300-Watt Mono Amplifier: Electronics
Dont expect much. Those subs are not very good. If you just want a little bass it will be fine

Well I figured they weren't amazing quality or anything, but i'm not trying to wake up the neighborhood or anything. I just want some quality speakers that will bump for me INSIDE the car without blowing big bucks on top brand/series stuff.

Also should i be going for a mono amp or multi channel?

And should i go ahead and get a capacitor while i'm at it?

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Mono

 

[WheresTheButta 10+ year member]

Well I figured they weren't amazing quality or anything, but i'm not trying to wake up the neighborhood or anything. I just want some quality speakers that will bump for me INSIDE the car without blowing big bucks on top brand/series stuff.
Also should i be looking for a mono amp or multi channel?

for your purpose, a mono amplifier is better. the one that was listed will do just fine

 

[supyall 10+ year member]

for your purpose, a mono amplifier is better. the one that was listed will do just fine

Could you go into a little detail as to why mono is better for the setup? I just wanna learn a little while i'm at it. Since i listen to alot of rock, would 2 channel be better to hear the left/right pounding of the drums?

And what mylows10 said sounds like a good idea, a bigger amp that I can continue to use later on after getting new speakers (which i know i would definitely upgrade in the future) sounds ballin'. So I have a feeling that mentioned amp would only last as long as the speakers do, which would be a pain to spend a ton of money on a whole new setup next time.

Sorry if I sound a little pesky, but I like to know what im doing/buying before I throw money at it. (i like to be smart with money, or as others would say: "cheap") I just wanna pick up some knowledge as I go along. Don't be afraid to throw some more expensive items out there for me.

 

[WheresTheButta 10+ year member]

Could you go into a little detail as to why mono is better for the setup? I just wanna learn a little while i'm at it.And what mylows10 said sounds like a good idea, a bigger amp that I can continue to use later on after getting new speakers (which i know i would definitely upgrade in the future) sounds ballin'. So I have a feeling that mentioned amp would only last as long as the speakers do, which would be a pain to spend a ton of money on a whole new setup next time.

Sorry if I sound a little pesky, but I like to know what im doing/buying before I throw money at it. (i like to be smart with money, or as others would say: "cheap") I just wanna pick up some knowledge as I go along. Don't be afraid to throw some more expensive items out there for me.

You're running a single 2 ohm load - a single signal is mono. A mono amp for a mono signal. Perhaps this amplifier if you want to buy something you can keep for a future upgrade? MB Quart ONX1.1000D - ONYX Class D Monoblock Car Amplifier/Amp You'll have to set the gains conservatively since it's more power than you currently need, but it will give you plenty of room to upgrade in the future.

 

[>>SQL<< 10+ year member]

please do not buy a capacitor

they have been proven to only remove money from your wallet and only very very rarely help with a system at all.

You want a mono amp - sounds below 100HZ are omni-directional (that means it is hard to figure out where they are coming from)

You would not hear drums in stereo

A mono amp is typically more efficient and better suited for bass reproduction

 

[destined2race 10+ year member]

Sorry if I sound a little pesky, but I like to know what im doing/buying before I throw money at it. (i like to be smart with money, or as others would say: "cheap")

So then why did you buy the cheapo rockfords before researching them here too? And the 4ga kit is good, your speaker inputs will take up to a 12 ga input. which is usually good for most setups.

 

[aaronwhitlock3]

the mbquart amp would be a good amp for you and the 4guage wiring kit will be ok too

and yes u need a mono and you do not need a capacitor..

 

[supyall 10+ year member]

So then why did you buy the cheapo rockfords before researching them here too? And the 4ga kit is good, your speaker inputs will take up to a 12 ga input. which is usually good for most setups.

You are right, i pretty much went with the brand name assuming they would be decent quality, though I know I wasnt buying any top quality subs. But the price was right, and I really liked the fact that they are in a box made FOR them specifically. Do you have any suggestions of some better 10" choices with the same ~150 bucks price tag already enclosed in a sealed box?

Honestly i came across this site looking for more info into this stuff, so I had already ordered them before i registered and started posting here. I don't care if you criticize me, im a noob just lookin for some help.

 

[Robert 2001 10+ year member]

My wife runs 2 10 p1s on a bazooka ela 300.1 on 4ga wiring sealed hers sounds decent. I wouldnt tune below 30hz the p1 and r1 are almost the same sub if im not mistaken.

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

My wife runs 2 10 p1s on a bazooka ela 300.1 on 4ga wiring sealed hers sounds decent. I wouldnt tune below 30hz the p1 and r1 are almost the same sub if im not mistaken.

You are very mistaken, they are very unrelated.