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[ThxOne Premium Member]

This is the only amp you have to work with. You have a quantity of one.
What would be the recommendation for bridging it to make more power?

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I'm sorry but you are incorrect. The image below show BOTH amplifiers in the Bridged Mono amp. Notice when you view the image it shows two of the diagram you have provided... this indicates there are two. This is verified on the website I linked where they also state there are two and that they are bridged in this mono amp for a specific reason... which they also cover. I'm sorry Rob, you just aren't correct in this instance. It is the factual proof that there is such a thing as a bridged mono amp. I was curious how you would take the news but I kind of already knew.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Haven't experienced it, but if they have the same excursion at the same frequency, and are the same size, does paper move less air than poly?

Are you swapping in drivers that have a lower output in general? Crossovers different? Higher LF dropoff below a certain threshold?

Identical specs or as near identical specs as possible. The paper cone will play lower in a car door.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Identical specs or as near identical specs as possible. The paper cone will play lower in a car door.

So paper cone woofers play to lower frequencies that poly cone woofers?
What is the cause of the phenomenon?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So paper cone woofers play to lower frequencies that poly cone woofers?
What is the cause of the phenomenon?

Not so, they typically do it easier. Higher compliance.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I'm sorry but you are incorrect. The image below show BOTH amplifiers in the Bridged Mono amp. Notice when you view the image it shows two of the diagram you have provided... this indicates there are two. This is verified on the website I linked where they also state there are two and that they are bridged in this mono amp for a specific reason... which they also cover. I'm sorry Rob, you just aren't correct in this instance. It is the factual proof that there is such a thing as a bridged mono amp. I was curious how you would take the news but I kind of already knew.

You are showing two ampS that are bridged together. Each one represented by the amplifier symbol in the diagram.
I'm asking about one amp when no other amp is present.

How do you bridge a mono amp when only one amp is present?

A step further: When you have a branded car amp that is sold as mono, how do you bridge that amp to make more power?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You are showing two ampS that are bridged together. Each one represented by the amplifier symbol in the diagram.
I'm asking about one amp when no other amp is present.

How do you bridge a mono amp when only one amp is present?

A step further: When you have a branded car amp that is sold as mono, how do you bridge that amp to make more power?

This is where you would have to be very specific with your questions. A mono amp with just one internal amp has nothing to bridge. It is also going to be a lower powered mono amp.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Not so, they typically do it easier. Higher compliance.

I thibnk we're jumping across things here.
Do paper cones play lower than poly, or do they just play the same frequencies at the same dB with lower power?

I assume by by "easier" you mean with lower power.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I thibnk we're jumping across things here.
Do paper cones play lower than poly, or do they just play the same frequencies at the same dB with lower power?

I assume by by "easier" you mean with lower power.

I am sure they will play the same frequencies. Yes, sure... easier with less power. It was also written about in an MECP book that a car stereo shop owner had me read when I worked for him. It also spoke how paper cones responded better in large cabinets.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

This is where you would have to be very specific with your questions. A mono amp with just one internal amp has nothing to bridge. It is also going to be a lower powered mono amp.

So you can't bridge A mono amp.
You can bridge mono ampS.

Precisely what i have been saying all along.

What about multiple mono amps that are already bridged and "boxed" to make a more powerful mono amp, such as a Rockford, Skar, B2, Taramps, etc?
How do you bridge one of those box amps?

And how would you make it with multiple channels, to run in (at minimum) a stereo configuration?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you can't bridge A mono amp.
You can bridge mono ampS.

Precisely what i have been saying all along.

What about multiple mono amps that are already bridged and "boxed" to make a more powerful mono amp, such as a Rockford, Skar, B2, Taramps, etc?
How do you bridge one of those box amps?

And how would you make it with multiple channels, to run in (at minimum) a stereo configuration?

It's actually not what you have been saying all along and now you will attempt to take over this thread by asking a bunch of pointless questions that you didn't get answers to in another thread.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I am sure they will play the same frequencies. Yes, sure... easier with less power. It was also written about in an MECP book that a car stereo shop owner had me read when I worked for him. It also spoke how paper cones responded better in large cabinets.

OK. So your original statement could lead to an ongoing debate about its validity, because it said something entirely different from what you are saying above.

You went from a statement that paper clones play lower than poly cones, to paper and poly will play the same frequencies, but paper will do it with less power.

That's a pretty big variation.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

OK. So your original statement could lead to an ongoing debate about its validity, because it said something entirely different from what you are saying above.

You went from a statement that paper clones play lower than poly cones, to paper and poly will play the same frequencies, but paper will do it with less power.

That's a pretty big variation.

I'm not interested in debating with you in every thread on the forum. Have some self control Rob.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

It's actually not what you have been saying all along and now you will attempt to take over this thread by asking a bunch of pointless questions that you didn't get answers to in another thread.

You created the thread to discuss the very fiction that A mono amp can be bridged.
You then showed two mono ampS that are bridged in an effort to "prove" the fiction is not fiction.

And just to be clear. i never said a mono amp can be bridged, I even denied as much back in 2022, and was willing to bet money that no proof could ever be found that I did so.

So we are in agreement that a single mono amp cannot be bridged. It takes TWO or more to do so.

Are we also in agreement that a "boxed" mono amp (such as those sold by many manufacturers, like a B2 4500.1, or Rockford R2500X1) cannot be bridged by the user in order to make more power?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You created the thread to discuss the very fiction that A mono amp can be bridged.
You then showed two mono ampS that are bridged in an effort to "prove" the fiction is not fiction.

And just to be clear. i never said a mono amp can be bridged, I even denied as much back in 2022, and was willing to bet money that no proof could ever be found that I did so.

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So we are in agreement that a single mono amp cannot be bridged. It takes TWO or more to do so.

Are we also in agreement that a "boxed" mono amp (such as those sold by many manufacturers, like a B2 4500.1, or Rockford R2500X1) cannot be bridged by the user in order to make more power?

I made this thread to get more traffic in the main part of the forum. Not to debate with you. I do not agree with you about anything you keep slipping into the conversation to boost your ego. You did however in the past demand a schematic of a bridged mono amp. I provided it, case closed. Move on, this is not your debate thread.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I made this thread to get more traffic in the main part of the forum. Not to debate with you. I do not agree with you about anything you keep slipping into the conversation to boost your ego. You did however in the past demand a schematic of a bridged mono amp. I provided it, case closed. Move on, this is not your debate thread.

OK. But since we are not in the Lounge, an effort should be made to not promote fictions that others, who are less informed about audio, may take as a truth because they read it from an old-timer.