Drinking and Lifting

[saj21187 10+ year member]

I have never heard of superpump 250, or done any research on it, so I can't comment. But I think people should be a little more careful before taking things.
And just because you know tons of people who take it, doesn't mean it is safe to take. I got a friend who takes it, and of course I can't notice anything wrong with him since he has been taking it. But who knows how it will effect people down the road. That is why I am VERY cautious with products that are as new as NO Xplode.

There are still people out there that think creatine could have negative side effects since people haven't been taking it long enough to see the full effects. And I would take creatine way before I would take many of the other suppliments.

Not to mention their usefullness is also still up for debate.

Bro trust me you are fine with these supplements. Creatine is mearly a salt that is naturally occuring in fish, pork, steak, pretty much any meat. The only negative sides you will possibly have with creatine is water bloat. And from someone who took creatine for the first 2 years of his training, it really isnt that miraculous as everyone says. You are much better off spending the money on steak and a good protien source for pre/post workout IMHO.

 

[hzsogood 5,000+ posts]

Here is my experienc:
In HS, I never drank- not even once. I was a 2-time All-State wrestler in the state's largest division, and I wanted to go on and wrestle in college. I was a 119 lb. wrestler, and I refused to cut weight. I was benching my body weight for sets of 12 or more starting when I was 15.

In college, I wrestled Division I, starting almost every match as a freshman. I went on a lifting binge before and after each season and got up to 132 (as a freshman) before cutting to 118 and 126 (those weight classes no longer exist). I did this for my first couple of years. After I got SICK of that, I moved up to 133 for my Senior year, and I really lifted seriously, still NEVER drinking. I had part of one drink on my 21st birthday- that was it.

At 22, I finished wrestling and graduated. I started drinking from time to time, gradually doing so more often while I was in law school. The whole time, I lifted like crazy. By the time I was up to 135 lb., I was repping 225 on bench 2-3 times. I was also power-clean-and-pressing 205.

As my drinking and lifting continued, I never saw much of a detrimental impact. As a matter of fact, when I made an assault at breaking the goal of benching 2x my body weight, I STILL drank any time I went out- which was 2-4 times a week. I drank beer and/or liquor, and as long as I got enough sleep and otherwise ate correctly, I never saw a drop in performance. Right through breaking the 300 lb. bench plateau, I drank. Through 315 lb., I drank. I was even in competetions and still drank regularly. Now, I was eating, sleeping, and training CORRECTLY to be able to continue these gains, but you CAN drink alcohol- even in copious amounts- if you otherwise treat your body well.

Now, 5 years later, I found that drinking is MUCH more impactful on my lifting. Last year, when my wife was pregnant, I did not drink out of respect for her inability to drink. My lifting improved by leaps and bounds during that "dry" spell. Now that I am back on the bottle (from time to time), moderation is the key.

So the take-home message? If you train your @$$ off and eat & sleep well, you can "outrun" the detrimental effects of alcohol- for a while. At some point, though, it will catch up to you and you will have to modify your behavior if you want to see maximum results in the gym.

nice post man , good info... i want to see big differences in 6 months so ill be lifting in some way or another6 days a week, sit ups n push ups the free day.. ill use the motivation of my ex dumping me for the biggest possible workouts //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[phenryiv1 10+ year member]

I on the other hand am trying to get big anyone got any tips on that? i seem to have hit a wall where i cant gain any weight past 230 lbs

LOL- my sympathy is LOW. At 5'5" tall, I FINALLY broke 160 lb. this month, after nearly 2 years at 152-155, regardless of strength. Prior to that, I was 148-151 for 3 years. Hearing soneone not be able to get past 230 makes me laugh!

I started eating the 6-meals-a-day thing, loading up on protein and protein bars, and I make sure to eat breakfast as early in the day as possible. That really helped a lot- particularly if I loaded breakfast with protein.

 

[tex512 10+ year member]

he must 1) not eat that much and or take Suplements (n.o. xplode most likely) or 2) just good genes

thats very wrong. Suppliments do nothing along the lines of getting you ripped if you only work out 2-3 days a week. They help you a little bit but nothing to noticable. Second N.O. Xplode also does nothing and is just mass advertised so high school kids and kids of that age will buy it. Helps a little but you won't see anyone that is a serious lifter taking anything like that. But I know that one way bodybuilders and UFC fighters get there steroids is drinking a ton and getting real drunk and go to a doctor. That doctor is then able to give them steroids because their testosterone is very low (because of being really drunk). So maybe him drinking a lot has allowed him to be given steroids by a doctor he knows....just a thought.

 

[saj21187 10+ year member]

I on the other hand am trying to get big anyone got any tips on that? i seem to have hit a wall where i cant gain any weight past 230 lbs

Whats your current training routine look like, and how long have you been doing it for. When i am in a rut i usually switch up the routine and it works wanders. Whats your stats again(age height etc) and I could help you, ill be back fro the gym in about an hour

 

[saj21187 10+ year member]

thats very wrong. Suppliments do nothing along the lines of getting you ripped if you only work out 2-3 days a week. They help you a little bit but nothing to noticable. Second N.O. Xplode also does nothing and is just mass advertised so high school kids and kids of that age will buy it. Helps a little but you won't see anyone that is a serious lifter taking anything like that. But I know that one way bodybuilders and UFC fighters get there steroids is drinking a ton and getting real drunk and go to a doctor. That doctor is then able to give them steroids because their testosterone is very low (because of being really drunk). So maybe him drinking a lot has allowed him to be given steroids by a doctor he knows....just a thought.

I was with you until the last part about bodybuilders and ufc fighter getting there steroids by getting drunk. You really think its that hard to get AAS that they have to lie to a doctor. That was a retarded comment.

 

[tex512 10+ year member]

I was with you until the last part about bodybuilders and ufc fighter getting there steroids by getting drunk. You really think its that hard to get AAS that they have to lie to a doctor. That was a retarded comment.

I know they get them many other ways but thats just one way to get some. That way its technically "legal". I just thought that might have to do with the guys friend that drinks and is ripped.

 

[phenryiv1 10+ year member]

Bro trust me you are fine with these supplements. Creatine is mearly a salt that is naturally occuring in fish, pork, steak, pretty much any meat. The only negative sides you will possibly have with creatine is water bloat. And from someone who took creatine for the first 2 years of his training, it really isnt that miraculous as everyone says. You are much better off spending the money on steak and a good protien source for pre/post workout IMHO.

Werd.

I took Creatine and Cell-Tech for years and never saw really serious gains from them, nor losses from going off of them. Now my only "supplement" is protein (I prefer Designer Whey, for the taste ONLY) and a TON of good clean food. I eat a lot of chicken (grilled or as lunchmeat), chili, some fish, lean ground beef, steak, and frozen fruits/veggies. I also drink about 24 oz of lowfat milk per day.

 

[tex512 10+ year member]

Werd.
I took Creatine and Cell-Tech for years and never saw really serious gains from them, nor losses from going off of them. Now my only "supplement" is protein (I prefer Designer Whey, for the taste ONLY) and a TON of good clean food. I eat a lot of chicken (grilled or as lunchmeat), chili, some fish, lean ground beef, steak, and frozen fruits/veggies. I also drink about 24 oz of lowfat milk per day.

Yeah you don't need any of that processed poweder. Eat healthy foods and lift and you'll be happy.

 

[dvrmstrng 5,000+ posts]

right now im just about 6' 3"...220 lbs...heaviest i've been lately was 230 never above that. My routine as of now is

Monday- Chest/Tri

Tuesday- Back/Bi

Wednesday- Shoulders/Traps

Thursday- Legs

Friday- Forearms

weekends usually off cause im in college haha

Ive been working out solidly since this year started....right now im taking Superpump 250 as a pre workout vaso dialator, size on by Gaspari for a pre workout creatine, 17 HD as a natural testosterone booster. Also mega men daily vitamins and fish oils. I have a protein shake almost daily. I try to eat as well as i can be it i have to eat at the dining hall and stuff. Sometimes at night i have a Cellmass creatine shake and i drink plentty of water

 

[tex512 10+ year member]

right now im just about 6' 3"...220 lbs...heaviest i've been lately was 230 never above that. My routine as of now is
Monday- Chest/Tri

Tuesday- Back/Bi

Wednesday- Shoulders/Traps

Thursday- Legs

Friday- Forearms

weekends usually off cause im in college haha

Ive been working out solidly since this year started....right now im taking Superpump 250 as a pre workout vaso dialator, size on by Gaspari for a pre workout creatine, 17 HD as a natural testosterone booster. Also mega men daily vitamins and fish oils. I have a protein shake almost daily. I try to eat as well as i can be it i have to eat at the dining hall and stuff. Sometimes at night i have a Cellmass creatine shake and i drink plentty of water

...congtrats...

 

[phenryiv1 10+ year member]

Yeah you don't need any of that processed poweder. Eat healthy foods and lift and you'll be happy.

I only use the powder in a morning shake that I can drink on the way to work (hour drive). After that, it is all food.

 

[phenryiv1 10+ year member]

right now im just about 6' 3"...220 lbs...heaviest i've been lately was 230 never above that. My routine as of now is
Monday- Chest/Tri

Tuesday- Back/Bi

Wednesday- Shoulders/Traps

Thursday- Legs

Friday- Forearms

weekends usually off cause im in college haha

Ive been working out solidly since this year started....right now im taking Superpump 250 as a pre workout vaso dialator, size on by Gaspari for a pre workout creatine, 17 HD as a natural testosterone booster. Also mega men daily vitamins and fish oils. I have a protein shake almost daily. I try to eat as well as i can be it i have to eat at the dining hall and stuff. Sometimes at night i have a Cellmass creatine shake and i drink plentty of water

Well, I don't necessarily agree with your breakdown of workouts, but that is beside the point, because there are thousands of people who think that that breakdown is the be-all and end-all of routines.

So here is the all-important question:

Are you getting ANY stronger?

 

[saj21187 10+ year member]

right now im just about 6' 3"...220 lbs...heaviest i've been lately was 230 never above that. My routine as of now is
Monday- Chest/Tri

Tuesday- Back/Bi

Wednesday- Shoulders/Traps

Thursday- Legs

Friday- Forearms

weekends usually off cause im in college haha

Ive been working out solidly since this year started....right now im taking Superpump 250 as a pre workout vaso dialator, size on by Gaspari for a pre workout creatine, 17 HD as a natural testosterone booster. Also mega men daily vitamins and fish oils. I have a protein shake almost daily. I try to eat as well as i can be it i have to eat at the dining hall and stuff. Sometimes at night i have a Cellmass creatine shake and i drink plentty of water

It looks good, but personally I like to spread out my chest/tri and back/bi workout a little just because the muscles are worked with alot of the same lifts. You could even try chest/back bi/tri for a few weeks just to get out of ordinary. How long do you usually spend in the gym. Sometimes if im stuck at a certain weight i find myself overtraining and back off a little either on time at the gym or reps on a certain lift. When was the last time you took a week off. Often when ive been training hard for a few months it does me alot of good to just take a week and do some light cardio or even take it completely off. I typically come back just as strong if not stronger with more energy.

What do you guess your body fat is? Assuming your a decent bf you might just not be eating enough food. On avg what would you say your caloric intake is roughly. Is it mostly carbs, protien, fat? If you think your diet is in check try changing up the routine, if that doesnt work its with your diet for sure. Make sure your eating lots of complex carbs and high protien foods.

 

[saj21187 10+ year member]

I know they get them many other ways but thats just one way to get some. That way its technically "legal". I just thought that might have to do with the guys friend that drinks and is ripped.

Alcohol is not going to lower your testosterone levels to a point where doctors would put you on HRT. And even if there levels were that low, HRT doses are about 1/10th of a dose that a bodybuilder(even a person with a normal testosterone level) would need to gain muscle.