i gotta remember that for the few months before summer
The way he openly said that i can about gaurantee it is ph/ps, but i may be wrong
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I laughed extensively at this.
its really just a natural testosterone booster....17-HD but it works wonders
why so. I can give you numerous links as well as being someone that has trained for over 4 years with a heart rate/calorie monitor on. Go buy a calorie monitor and lift intesly for an hour and the next day go run for an hour, I promise you will burn more lifting. Links are ready if needed
Me too.
I used to swim 30 miles a week, and there was no way I wasn't burning as many calories as a weight lifter. I would have a daily intake of about 4000 calaroies, eat as much as I could possibly stand to eat, and still wouldn't gain any fat.
There is a reason they call weightlifting anaerobic, and activities like swimming/running aerobic excercises.
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Well heres what im trying to get out of it...
Since ive been out of the lifting scene for a bit ive noticed ive lost muscle / definition, and gained 5% bodyfat ( im at 18% now.. Im not noticibly fat but i need to get big again its depressing, especially when ive been defined before..
i dont mean i wanna runners s muscle **** that, nor do i wanna be super cut like some fitness guy .. Somewhere in the middle Defined a big ( maybe thicker look ) I know thats a big thing to accomplish but as far as suppliments whats a good Pre/ post workout and creatine, protein etc.. I dont want 100 diff supliments on y counter just the basics for quick gains
Since ive been out of the lifting scene for a bit ive noticed ive lost muscle / definition, and gained 5% bodyfat ( im at 18% now.. Im not noticibly fat but i need to get big again its depressing, especially when ive been defined before..
i dont mean i wanna runners s muscle **** that, nor do i wanna be super cut like some fitness guy .. Somewhere in the middle Defined a big ( maybe thicker look ) I know thats a big thing to accomplish but as far as suppliments whats a good Pre/ post workout and creatine, protein etc.. I dont want 100 diff supliments on y counter just the basics for quick gains
And you need to be WAY more specific to make an argument.
You CAN do aerobic training in the gym. If you do that type of lifting you can burn just as many or more calories than lets say running/swimming. But doing only anaerobic work in the gym will not give you the same amount of calories consumption.
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Maybe sissy joging.
Get to a point where you can run 5 miles in around 35min...that is a moderate 8k time as far as 8k runners go...now do that in 100+ degree weather with hills. You are talking about a heart rate of over 150bpm for 35min. No weight lifting I have ever done can even begin to touch that.
On average someone my weight can burn close to 700 calories in one 5k race (3mi if you dont know).
If you look at a chart of cardio activities and estimated calories burned running at a good speed, cross country skiing up hill at maximum effort, bycyclining at 20mph +, and butterfly stroke at maximum effort are leading closely followed by inteinse boxing. When we get shin splints or ancle injuries coach puts us on race bikes, when we get other injuries he puts us in a pool.
Get to a point where you can run 5 miles in around 35min...that is a moderate 8k time as far as 8k runners go...now do that in 100+ degree weather with hills. You are talking about a heart rate of over 150bpm for 35min. No weight lifting I have ever done can even begin to touch that.
On average someone my weight can burn close to 700 calories in one 5k race (3mi if you dont know).
If you look at a chart of cardio activities and estimated calories burned running at a good speed, cross country skiing up hill at maximum effort, bycyclining at 20mph +, and butterfly stroke at maximum effort are leading closely followed by inteinse boxing. When we get shin splints or ancle injuries coach puts us on race bikes, when we get other injuries he puts us in a pool.
And to be honest with you. I personally don't use any of the supliments mentioned. I was never naturally big, and most of my family has always been on the skinny side. But even not having the best genes for body building, I have gotten a real good size just by lifting real hard, and having a basic whey protein drink. If you want to be a healthy size, and aren't incredibly small to begin with, just taking whey protein and having a great lifting schedule will get you real far.
You won't come out of there looking like lou ferrigno, but if you want to be a healthy size and really look in shape, then that is all you need to do.
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We also get put in the weight room...but that is to build high rep stamina, not cardio gain or calorie burn.
whats your height weight...first of all...and say in 6 months what would you want your weight to be?
I do agree with you, and of course will say aerobic training is WAY better at burning calories than anaerobic weight training.
But I wouldn't be surprised if peak heart rates in weightlifters during a training session was a lot higher than your sustained heart rate while running. I remember one competitor in worlds strongest man was actually around 210 bpm after one of the competitions
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Yea i hear ya, i just need to loose a lil winter beer fat around the mid section and get back on a good schedule.. the crap part for me is im laid off from work and live about 40 miles from the nearest gym.. if anything ill take protein no doubt, but i would like some kind of pre/post suppliment besides that.. I dont want to lift til failure i wanna lift past my muscle failure
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