Do you guys know what the war on drugs is ?

[fuster 10+ year member]

You might want to either finish your high school diploma or check your spelling and puctuation before you hit the "submit" button.

Submitting posts with all those mistakes just makes folks think you are really stupid (and lazy).

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[blackman 10+ year member]

blah blah blah
The government is terrified of what it cant control. People in the ghetto selling crack have no tax ID numbers, do not pay taxes, do not vote. People like you and me have jobs, we pay taxes, we vote. The government knows everything about us, we have a paper trail. So they need to somehow "control" these criminals, and they do so with prison etc. The government is beyond genius with the way they conduct the war on drugs.

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[Jbowsky_62 10+ year member]

If you want to watch a real doc about the iran-contra involving the Cia watch American Drug War: The Last Great White Hope

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

If you want to watch a real doc about the iran-contra involving the Cia watch American Drug War: The Last Great White Hope

it's pretty good. you might want to fact check alot of it though. it is a biased documentary, just as micheal moore's movies are biased. i'm sure it's somewhere in the middle, between this documentary, and the governments version.

 

[LiquidClen 10+ year member]

im not reading this whole fawking thread, but the war on drugs is a serious war... on drugs... im sure all of you dumbasses realizes the importance of said war.

Now excuse me while i pop a few xannies and go to bed

 

[Jbowsky_62 10+ year member]

it's pretty good. you might want to fact check alot of it though. it is a biased documentary, just as micheal moore's movies are biased. i'm sure it's somewhere in the middle, between this documentary, and the governments version.

Basically all informative or doc movies now are biased but i thought it was a pretty cool movie about the iran-contra

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

It is a known and documented fact that the CIA invented/developed crack (oliver north was the head of this mission) to sell to ambitious African American groups in urban (black) neighborhoods all over the country. The CIA needed money to fund anti terrorism programs. The blacks got smart and learned how to make their own crack, they did not need Oliver North anymore. The black neighborhoods went to crap, they operated like third world nations. The few drug dealers made all the money while the rest of the people were starving and dieing from the drugs.
Enter Richard Nixon.

Nixon declared a "war on drugs". The American people believed this was a great thing, drugs kill....Nixon wants to lock up the drug dealers and drug addicts to make this nation a better place. This is 100% wrong. The government knew they screwed up with Oliver North. But the Gov is smart and they used it to their advantage. They put hefty laws on crack cocaine, the crack form carried a longer sentence then the powder form (the rich mans form). They started locking people up left and right which in turn created what we know today as these huge prisons. Which created TONS of jobs, all the way from police officers to probation officers to prison guards. They could not build prisons fast enough. The deadly substance now had its enemy, the "drug dealer". Yes i partially blame the drug dealers but then again i do not, they saw opportunity...they took it. This is a win, win for the government. It gave them the opportunity to attract voters and the opportunity to destroy the people that would other wise not vote for them (poor urban communities) all the while creating jobs and developing systems (prisons, half way houses, drug programs) to monitor and "cage" the less desirable areas of this country.

The government is terrified of what it cant control. People in the ghetto selling crack have no tax ID numbers, do not pay taxes, do not vote. People like you and me have jobs, we pay taxes, we vote. The government knows everything about us, we have a paper trail. So they need to somehow "control" these criminals, and they do so with prison etc. The government is beyond genius with the way they conduct the war on drugs.

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[_DjScrew_ 5,000+ posts]

truth.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

So what exactly was the order of events? Oliver North created crack and then Richard Nixon declared the War on Drugs?

That's what it sounds like he is saying.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Crack is not that much cheaper than cocaine.

 

[loopkiller 10+ year member]

Yes, I did. Your assumptions in that statement you made about drug addiction are devoid of reality. Yes, people first make a choice to drink or take drugs, but those who become alcoholics or drug addicts become powerless to stop. This is not some myth from a comic book, but medical fact. Free will no longer has anything to do with it. So to say "they made a choice" and assume they can "just stop" (where is Nancy Reagan?), is about as far from reality as you can go. Unfortunately, you have plenty of company in that perception. It is part of what fuels most police drug units, the DEA and the War On Drugs.
What you may not have realized in your rather short life on this planet, the War On Drugs has been going on since the Nixon Administration and it has cost over $17 billion, and as a result of this so called war, drug overdose deaths have risen over 540%, the cost of heroin has gone down by 2/3, and the purity has increased 2/3, and it is easier to get (that is just an example, we could talk cannibis or coke and have some bad numbers there too, just not the overdose deaths). The largest percentage of prisoners in this country comprises drug arrests, most of which are users for simple possession. http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/slammed-welcome-to-the-age-of-incarceration.html

Drug dealers are the lowest scum on earth. They prey on people and make a living off of a disease. Yes, it is a disease, like diabetes. Not a choice.

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So people who smoke crack were born with, or developed, this disease without ever making a conscious choice to use their drug of choice? What you are forgetting is that in fact it was a choice they made. They may not be able to undo that choice, but to give them a cop-out like that is just wrong. Everyone today knows what crack does to people. All you have to do is watch Tyrone Biggums or the 11 o'clock news. Before they choose to take that first hit, they knew what was at stake. Don't sugar coat it and say they had a disease before that first hit.

You sounded like an intelligent person until you started making excuses for addicts.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Crack is not that much cheaper than cocaine.

experience?

 

[_DjScrew_ 5,000+ posts]

Crack is not that much cheaper than cocaine.

Crack is cheaper to the user and more profitable to the seller. Take a ball of coke (3.5) and cook it up with ~2gs of baking soda. You loose about a g during cooking. So you have a 'cookie' that weighs 4.5. You then break off your $5, $10, $20 pieces. with straight coke you can sell a g for 50 - 70 depending on the client. or sell the ball straight up anywhere from 125 - 200 depending on the quality.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Crack is cheaper to the user and more profitable to the seller. Take a ball of coke (3.5) and cook it up with ~2gs of baking soda. You loose about a g during cooking. So you have a 'cookie' that weighs 4.5. You then break off your $5, $10, $20 pieces. with straight coke you can sell a g for 50 - 70 depending on the client. or sell the ball straight up anywhere from 125 - 200 depending on the quality.

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[_DjScrew_ 5,000+ posts]

Is Flip getting schooled on street economics? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I'm not proud I know it, but i do know it. Never sold crack myself, but I've watched many friends cook it up and sell it. Shit does bad things to people, I don't know which is worse to sell/do - meth or crack.