Bye Bye GM....Thanx Liberals....

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we can have 5 hurricane's and still support our state, our states total population is under 4 million. we export 80% of our oil to other states. we export rice, corn, natural gas, salt, spring water, soy, etc... we import next to no natural resources, plus New Oleans is one of the largest ports in the country.

Ya... people who build a city below sea level are really gonna be able to support themselves....

Does Louisiana have coal mines? or trona mines? or mills or ore mines?

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

grand prix would probably be the closest, there isnt much to compare it to honestly

This.

Both feel cheap to me. So as for saying the built quality is better for one or the other is a null point. Each has a strength and weakness.

 

[evers 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif more of my toyota 4 runner was manufactured in the US than any other vehicle I have ever owned. That includes multiple GMs and dodges, which are mostly made in mexico and canada

The point is where the money ends up!! Domestics are classified as such for a reason. Domestics brands employ americans 4x more the foreign brands. Do so some research.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

all these companies that are asking for money need to just fail like they are on their way to. money doesn't solve problems just ask biggie and diddy. all this "bailout" crap needs to stop. companies fail all the time just, if you can't get another job, learn something new. it's called survival of the fittest.

hell id take the money if it was free. the govt needs to quit giving it, people will keep asking because it doesnt cost them anything

 

[ctt0002 10+ year member]

Wrong again? I feel That I have not been wrong, just stated an opinion different then yours. That does not make me wrong, and if you think that it does your pretty close minded. I have admitted the Honda and other imports trounce GM now but they could not have done so without there foundation. This is also strictly from a car stand point.
But instead of calling me out, care to inform me of the electric car prior to the GM EV1? The cars was road tested and destroyed.

That was done a good amount years ago that i'm even luckily to even heard about. I bet there is a handful of folks on this forum even know about it.

Same thing i could have said that nissan made the first hydrogen suv but it never came into production and nobody would have even known about it. (it did happen cause i read about it in an article).

But it was the toyota prius that is the first mass production electric car.

I'm sorry but i didn't mean to call you out like that. I don't usually get into it unless i know what i'm talking about hence thats why you hardly see my name in any of the car audio thread.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

The point is where the money ends up!! Domestics are classified as such for a reason. Domestics brands employ americans 4x more the foreign brands. Do so some research.

How about you do some research:

WV has 2 auto plants, 1 manufactures Toyota engines, another manufactures lexus.

Most domestic businesses are foreign owned nowadays anyway.

How about you show me your source on the Domestics employ 4x more americans than foreign, because I think you just made it up. AND even IF it is true, it wont be in 2 years because GM and Ford will have to restructure to compete, there is no point in paying 4x as many workers to do the amount of work that can be done by 1/4 of them.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

That was done a good amount years ago that i'm even luckily to even heard about. I bet there is a handful of folks on this forum even know about it.
Same thing i could have said that nissan made the first hydrogen suv but it never came into production and nobody would have even known about it. (it did happen cause i read about it in an article).

But it was the toyota prius that is the first mass production electric car.

I'm sorry but i didn't mean to call you out like that. I don't usually get into it unless i know what i'm talking about hence thats why you hardly see my name in any of the car audio thread.

Wrong, if your gonna call somebody out get your facts straight.

The volt is a TRUE electric, the Pruis is a hybrid, VERY VERY VERY different.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

it took 1 and new orleans was under water and every one of your rigs shut down, so no you cant withstand 5. NO is a hole, and should not be populated, im sure your gonna get pissed at me, but its the truth, I dont know about the rest of the state but NO and the rest of the coast has no business getting my money to rebuild in a flood plain.
now back to gm

maybe you should get an elevation map. only certain areas of NO need to go. those areas did flood severely and yes I do agree those areas should not be rebuilt under any circumstances. okay i agree enough crap out my $hit hole city.

gm needs to just tank and make way for up and coming domestic car companies that will suceed that have way better products that appeal to the mass like Tesla for example. GM is, in the words of Will Smith (J from MIB), "old busted joint".

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

That was done a good amount years ago that i'm even luckily to even heard about. I bet there is a handful of folks on this forum even know about it.
Same thing i could have said that nissan made the first hydrogen suv but it never came into production and nobody would have even known about it. (it did happen cause i read about it in an article).

But it was the toyota prius that is the first mass production electric car.

I'm sorry but i didn't mean to call you out like that. I don't usually get into it unless i know what i'm talking about hence thats why you hardly see my name in any of the car audio thread.

Its cool. I know what Nissan your talking about as I too have read the artical. The EV1 was released in 96-97 so Some should know about it. As for the Prius, its not a true electric car. I may share a different opinion then you, but I know where you are coming from, and I can understand that.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

Wrong, if your gonna call somebody out get your facts straight.
The volt is a TRUE electric, the Pruis is a hybrid, VERY VERY VERY different.

actually the Volt is an electric hybrid. it uses a small gas powered generator to travel farther than the 40 miles that just the electric motor can travel on a full charge. although yes it is a full electric drivetrain.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

maybe you should get an elevation map. only certain areas of NO need to go. those areas did flood severely and yes I do agree those areas should not be rebuilt under any circumstances. okay i agree enough crap out my $hit hole city.
gm needs to just tank and make way for up and coming domestic car companies that will suceed that have way better products that appeal to the mass like Tesla for example. GM is, in the words of Will Smith (J from MIB), "old busted joint".

I'm glad you understand my concern of repopulating a flood plain, I havent researched it enough to know about all the areas, I just know that alot of NO is in a hole.

I like that old busted joint, lool. Is tesla the company making the high performance electric?

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

actually the Volt is an electric hybrid. it uses a small gas powered generator to travel farther than the 40 miles that just the electric motor can travel on a full charge. although yes it is a full electric drivetrain.

actually the Volt is an electric hybrid. it uses a small gas powered generator to travel farther than the 40 miles that just the electric motor can travel on a full charge. although yes it is a full electric drivetrain.

For the record I was referencing the EV1. Dodge also release a fully electric car, but I can not think of the name right now.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

actually the Volt is an electric hybrid. it uses a small gas powered generator to travel farther than the 40 miles that just the electric motor can travel on a full charge. although yes it is a full electric drivetrain.

Well, I am looking at the GM volt webpage and it is under a tab called Electric, and hybrids are under another tab. I would imagine that GM would know how to classify there vehicles, and has a way to distinguish it properly, in the eyes of the fed govt anyway.

Hybrids use gasoline to go faster than 15mph, and a true electric should be on juice until the batts are dry, then I would imagine the gas motor would kick in, still it is a true eletric and is MUCH different than a prius.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

Ya... people who build a city below sea level are really gonna be able to support themselves....
Does Louisiana have coal mines? or trona mines? or mills or ore mines?

we don't need coal mines, we produce natural gas and produce electricy from mutiple sources through out the state that power most of the surrounding states. do you think that coal is the only power source on the planet besides crude? we have one city that is below sea level in the whole state. maybe you should check out how much product comes into the New Orleans port that goes out to the rest of the US. maybe you should read a history book on New Orleans and Baton Rouge ports to see how valuable these cities are to the US.

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

Well, I am looking at the GM volt webpage and it is under a tab called Electric, and hybrids are under another tab. I would imagine that GM would know how to classify there vehicles, and has a way to distinguish it properly, in the eyes of the fed govt anyway.
Hybrids use gasoline to go faster than 15mph, and a true electric should be on juice until the batts are dry, then I would imagine the gas motor would kick in, still it is a true eletric and is MUCH different than a prius.

Prius: Uses an electric motor to power the car at high speed and electric used for around town

Volt: Gasoline engine runs what I guess you could call a generator that charges the batteries. This then runs the electric motor.

The volt IS NOT a hybrid as it only has one motor on its drivetrain. So you are correct.