Bye Bye GM....Thanx Liberals....

[ctt0002 10+ year member]

actually the Volt is an electric hybrid. it uses a small gas powered generator to travel farther than the 40 miles that just the electric motor can travel on a full charge. although yes it is a full electric drivetrain.

I was just about to say that.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

I was just about to say that.

It may have both electric and gas motors, but it isnt a hybrid like the prius, works on a totally different concept.

 

[ctt0002 10+ year member]

lol we went from gm going bankrupt to domestic & imports to hybrids & electrics all in one thread.

I love this forum!

 

[alxmlr789 10+ year member]

good riddens.

I'm glad we can all spell here.

Good Riddance maybe? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

I was just about to say that.

Prius: Uses an electric motor to power the car at high speed and electric used for around town
Volt: Gasoline engine runs what I guess you could call a generator that charges the batteries. This then runs the electric motor.

The volt IS NOT a hybrid as it only has one motor on its drivetrain.

Works twice..

 

[ctt0002 10+ year member]

It may have both electric and gas motors, but it isnt a hybrid like the prius, works on a totally different concept.

Yea i would have to agree they're both (or three really) are on a different concept. I was thinking hybrids the whole time because i've never heard of a fully electric car in production and i thought thats what we're talking about (something in production)

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

Yea i would have to agree they're both (or three really) are on a different concept. I was thinking hybrids the whole time because i've never heard of a fully electric car in production and i thought thats what we're talking about (something in production)

check out http://www.teslamotors.com

their going to be producing a sedan next year or so they say.

 

[RE_XXX]

we don't need coal mines, we produce natural gas and produce electricy from mutiple sources through out the state that power most of the surrounding states. do you think that coal is the only power source on the planet besides crude? we have one city that is below sea level in the whole state. maybe you should check out how much product comes into the New Orleans port that goes out to the rest of the US. maybe you should read a history book on New Orleans and Baton Rouge ports to see how valuable these cities are to the US.

Im not trying to discredit the state.... every state does its things.... What my whole theory is built around is you saying your state can hold its own.... Now... to me thats saying if this country hits a depression... no money or food or ANYTHING... how are those ports going to stay open? Who is going to pay for the electricity to run those cranes? Who is going to pay the workers to unload the cargo? Who is going to pay for the natural gas to get transported and processed?? Nobody.... its a depression... You have to rely on your old roots... and is there enough natural resources there to do that with your population and big cities?

Here you can tap into the sour gas and drip gas to run in vehicles right out of the ground... Its not pretty but you can do it. You can burn coal to stay warm and enough wildlife here to feed america... and yadda yadda....

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

lol we went from gm going bankrupt to domestic & imports to hybrids & electrics all in one thread.
I love this forum!

Its all relevant. GM refuses/refused to adapt to a changing business and is now gonna screw the pooch because of it. There is no way in hell I would buy a domestic today, and anyone who does is crazy.

1. The threat of bankruptcy, sure you not buying that cavalier is kinda counterintuitive tot he process of coming out of bankruptcy, but what consumer is gonna risk there money like that

2. The price, a loaded domestic is more expensive than a foreign car with the same features ( items like power windows/locks are not extra on MOST foreign vehicles so its hard to say loaded for them)

3. GM/Ford are working on a older business model that just doesnt work, and it shows in both there sharevalue and there product lines

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Im not trying to discredit the state.... every state does its things.... What my whole theory is built around is you saying your state can hold its own.... Now... to me thats saying if this country hits a depression... no money or food or ANYTHING... how are those ports going to stay open? Who is going to pay for the electricity to run those cranes? Who is going to pay the workers to unload the cargo? Who is going to pay for the natural gas to get transported and processed?? Nobody.... its a depression... You have to rely on your old roots... and is there enough natural resources there to do that with your population and big cities?
Here you can tap into the sour gas and drip gas to run in vehicles right out of the ground... Its not pretty but you can do it. You can burn coal to stay warm and enough wildlife here to feed america... and yadda yadda....

lol since we are on this tangent I just wanted to point out how much better our coal is than yours lol, WV doesnt have much but our coal has a lower impurity content ( sulfur i think i cant remember exactly ) than wyomings //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif. which is one of the reasons why WV economy isnt in the shitter LOL

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

And you sir is wrong again. You might want to do a little bit more research before making such assumption.
Yes domestics have came up with the ideas of an electric engine but none has been mass produced.

You wanna guess who mass produce the first electric car?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV-1

A lot of people believe that the government and oil companies killed the project though (Sony's "Who Killed the Electric Car" documentary). Although I think cheap oil prices had a lot more to do with it.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

Im not trying to discredit the state.... every state does its things.... What my whole theory is built around is you saying your state can hold its own.... Now... to me thats saying if this country hits a depression... no money or food or ANYTHING... how are those ports going to stay open? Who is going to pay for the electricity to run those cranes? Who is going to pay the workers to unload the cargo? Who is going to pay for the natural gas to get transported and processed?? Nobody.... its a depression... You have to rely on your old roots... and is there enough natural resources there to do that with your population and big cities?
Here you can tap into the sour gas and drip gas to run in vehicles right out of the ground... Its not pretty but you can do it. You can burn coal to stay warm and enough wildlife here to feed america... and yadda yadda....

Louisiana can fully support itself. we are not being affected by this "depression". we are not having mass layoffs, no unemployment spikes, no mass forclosures. only thing that is going on right now is just business is slow. we have so many small business owners that we could get all of our produce to everyone in the state. no part of the state is highly employeed by 1 company that is it were to layoff ppl that that city would be devistated. we have a great oil industry, agriculture, fishing and game, energy, etc... we are a fully self sufficent state.

 

[RE_XXX]

lol since we are on this tangent I just wanted to point out how much better our coal is than yours lol, WV doesnt have much but our coal has a lower impurity content ( sulfur i think i cant remember exactly ) than wyomings //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif. which is one of the reasons why WV economy isnt in the shitter LOL

Ya...im not a miner.... But I hear our coal isnt the best... but we do have a lot of it... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

i think we have jumped all over enough on this thread that we killed it.

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

Its all relevant. GM refuses/refused to adapt to a changing business and is now gonna screw the pooch because of it. There is no way in hell I would buy a domestic today, and anyone who does is crazy.
1. The threat of bankruptcy, sure you not buying that cavalier is kinda counterintuitive tot he process of coming out of bankruptcy, but what consumer is gonna risk there money like that

2. The price, a loaded domestic is more expensive than a foreign car with the same features ( items like power windows/locks are not extra on MOST foreign vehicles so its hard to say loaded for them)

3. GM/Ford are working on a older business model that just doesnt work, and it shows in both there sharevalue and there product lines

Your not paying for the option its self but the design and cost to build that vehicle. Because American employee's are generally more expensive to employ as workers, GM plants cost more to run.