Box Design questions

[SkyLegend 10+ year member]

K this is a sorry on double post but my previous post had not been accepted yet. I am going to get that Kicker L5 15" for $250, FI is having a black friday sale

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

I am going to get that Kicker L5 15" for $250

Might as well spend $50 more and get an 18" Xcon from SSA. You can get pairs of L7's for $250 on craigslist.

 

[SkyLegend 10+ year member]

I don't want a 18", thats to much. I drive a 91 honda civic hatchback dx.

 

[NissanKicker 10+ year member]

(1) 18" Sub would be GREAT!

... But as for as the Kicker L5 15" sub goes...

I'd do ( either ): ( In your car )

... Sub Up, Port Up

Or ... Sub Back , Port Up

( Maybe all back... But 1 of those will be great )

.. Oh yeah: TUNED @ 32HZ

 

[SkyLegend 10+ year member]

im going to hae the speaker back dont know about port tho

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Do both back, but please do not waste $250 on a L5.

I used to have an '88 Civic hatch...are you keeping the rear seat?

 

[SkyLegend 10+ year member]

Yes, I am planning to have it behind the back seat, if I shouldn't get that then what. I don't like craiglist because I am not risking getting ****. And FYI the L5 is going to be brand new. If I can find elsewere or a non bullshit new L7 pair for $250, ill take it.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

L5's just plain suck, in my opinion. They sound bad and they really don't get loud compared to other 15" woofers because they are too mechanically limited with the square cone/surround. You'd be better off with something like these if you have ~250 to spend.

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[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Audioque SDC2.5 would be a good choice and under budget.

 

[SkyLegend 10+ year member]

Well what about the L7, I am looking for a square sub because they are the loudest out of all subs.

 

[iLL Ridge 10+ year member]

I had some neighbors with 2 12" L5's. **** was loud as hell. Kinda expensive and didn't sound the best. Was very loud though and in a prefab L5 ported box- trunk car.

 

[SkyLegend 10+ year member]

I am looking at the Fi, I do like them but I have a few questions, Do they really only hit 32Hz? I would prefer a sub that can hit lower.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Well what about the L7, I am looking for a square sub because they are the loudest out of all subs.

Where did you get this info? Do you see square subs winning spl world titles? No. Sure they have more cone area, but their design limits the amount of excursion before they start to fail.

I had some neighbors with 2 12" L5's. **** was loud as hell. Kinda expensive and didn't sound the best. Was very loud though and in a prefab L5 ported box- trunk car.

Prefab box = high tuning = peaky response = loud within a certain frequency range. I doubt it had any balls below 40hz.

I am looking at the Fi, I do like them but I have a few questions, Do they really only hit 32Hz? I would prefer a sub that can hit lower.

What makes you think they can "only hit 32hz"? The box will greatly determine the repsonse curve of the sub. You can make anything peaky, and you can make nearly anything dig low into the mid 20's with ease. Pretty much any Fi sub will have better low-end potential than a L5 or L7. The Kickers can get loud in a higher tuned box, just like any other sub. It's the sound quality and lack of low-end that I've seen from L5's and L7's that really turn me away.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Where did you get this info? Do you see square subs winning spl world titles? No. Sure they have more cone area, but their design limits the amount of excursion before they start to fail.

Prefab box = high tuning = peaky response = loud within a certain frequency range. I doubt it had any balls below 40hz.

What makes you think they can "only hit 32hz"? The box will greatly determine the repsonse curve of the sub. You can make anything peaky, and you can make nearly anything dig low into the mid 20's with ease. Pretty much any Fi sub will have better low-end potential than a L5 or L7. The Kickers can get loud in a higher tuned box, just like any other sub. It's the sound quality and lack of low-end that I've seen from L5's and L7's that really turn me away.

I have seen them in the winner circle a lot over the years.. not the point though.

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

this isnt a this or that which sub to buy thread.

here is what i recommend

Sub up port up, four cubes @ 35 hz

in my expierence the l5 can be tuned in the mid 30's and still play into the high 20's without much of an issue as long as the signal is clean.