A question for papermaker

[DarkKnightSM]

I want to be an electrician. I cant count how many times theres work in my house that i cant do because i forgot all the electrical work i learned in hs. Or i cant do wiring in my car because i cant figure out ohms. I was passionate about this career before i joined the military and still am.

 

[DarkKnightSM]

Not only that but being an electrician and maybe studying sound accoustics in school would help me with home and car audio

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I want to be an electrician. I cant count how many times theres work in my house that i cant do because i forgot all the electrical work i learned in hs. Or i cant do wiring in my car because i cant figure out ohms. I was passionate about this career before i joined the military and still am.

I'll be glad to help.

I'd still do some technical training to get ahead. You gonna swear you are still in the military working 7 12s. Lol

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Im 26. I never use math. So of course id forget what i learned in high school. I took a pre alg class 5 years ago and forgot some of that too. Ill be finr if im using it everyday. But id hate to join a career, not use algebra and one day all of a sudden need the knowledge that i seldomly use

if you're good at math that's a good start It means you're good logical thinker..

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

It does seem cool. I doubt its a career for me. Not even electrical engineering would be a job fot me. I need to be working with my hands, on my feet and working hard. So when i hear theres labor involved with an electrician that actually sounds appealing to me. But to even get in the apprentiship program i have to pass an altitude test requiring knowledge in algebra. Every time i take a class i forget what i dont use. So now im stuck relearning algreba, again. So im left wondering how often am i gonna even use this stuff on a daily basis as an electrician

Cuz you being a strict electrician you won't do a ton of very cool shitend up the watering you might wire a starter in a bucket and that's about as far as it'll get you won't do no control wiring or anything other than wiring up a device and its to wire positive and negative low voltage 24 volt DC I personally love to wire complicated complex s*** and like building stuff I've done the grunt work.

Bending pipe can get tricky because it is sometimes a lot of math and it's actually trigonometry but don't let that scare you because there's old tricks to do to get around having to do the math and a lot of times you just got up been to a few pieces and it just takes experience it's difficult at first but if you get a take me down and you understand your formulas you'll be all right

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

The plc is quickly going the way of the dinosaur Plc is a fine start but the new things coming out will be very different from a plc

It's all based on logic and networking when the actual hardware for plc's goes away you still going to have Lan data bus.. a lot of oll analog stuff is just more accurate and with the exception of noise which is rare is a very very very reliable I mean you can lose power you can catch this mother f***** on far they steal very rarely need to be calibrated.

Plus it's so **** easy to troubleshoot and understand the old analog system versus the new stuff. You take troubleshooting from a simple output device into a complex circuit which you can check your bits on the input output but you can already do that with the Analog and digital Devices anyways.

And don't really matter much because you're not getting rid of excess Hardware you still have to have switches and Hardware regardless so it's kind of like it didn't catch on like I thought it would but the engineer at work actually has a couple of them on the new system. You still need the main processor so.

People said that about scada too but it's not going anywhere.

Remote control is cool af.

 

[DarkKnightSM]

Well thank you for the advise.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Advice*
Take an English class with your Algebra. You don't want to be unemployable like Papermaker.

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[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Oh my

 

[Jcsaudio]

Do yourself a favor and use the GI bill and get a degree while you are young and still can. You can always go back and then become an electrician later but it will be extremely difficult to go back to school once your life gets full as you get older. Hell, you could work for an electrician part time while you are in school getting a degree and have the best of both worlds. Electricians are a dime a dozen in my nieghborhood. The union guys have a hard time staying working, especially in the beginning of their carrier and the non union guys only make like 60k a year, which is bread crumbs where I live.

I know about this because I’m in the business and I run 25+ million dollar jobs in Boston as a Superintendant for a huge company.

If you do decide that being an electrician is what you want to do than get involved with fire alarm systems. The electricians in this area that know commercial fire alarm systems are in higher demand. I would imagine it’s the same elsewhere.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

That's why I do maintenance. Good benefits not the best pay but is decent and I'm pretty sure Ill have a job far past any contractor I can give me. Made 3300 on 2 55 hour weeks. Not rich but that's decent considering I'm not killing myself..

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

That's all?? If I work 2 days extra/wk, I can easily clear over 2500 net

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

That's all?? If I work 2 days extra/wk, I can easily clear over 2500 net

See you not poor. I took a pay cut to stop traveling and settle down. I made 80k+ on the road easily but I'm sick of it.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

You don't have a wife and kids...I'll always be poor.