'97 Town Car "King Kongs" *No56k*

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

interesting.

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

thats why i do custom fiberglass enclosures, and not build square boxes. so people cant tell me i did somthing wrong,

because with fiberglass, "oh its suposed to look like that"

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

thats why i do custom fiberglass enclosures, and not build square boxes. so people cant tell me i did somthing wrong,
because with fiberglass, "oh its suposed to look like that"

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Maybe I should have done that.

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

I literally almost fell out of my chair laughing!
Let he who is without sin throw the first stone right?

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So you admit that I will gain with my bracing, even if it is a little bit, but then you bash it? For what? The box isnt going to buzz like a poorly constructed fiberglass enclosure and any loss ins SQ wont really matter. The car has more plywood between the trunk and the cab than between myself and my neighbor's living room.

You where on ignore untill someone sent me a link to your comments about all us juvie kids over here. I took you off to read and now I think I'm going to leave you off so I can continue to get a good giggle out of your comments.

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well, i guess i should have made myself a bit more clear. your thought process, can i even call it that?, is that if you had proper bracing that the resulting airflow loss(?) would result in a weaker score. so i posted that whatever gain you might get with your bracing, which should have read lack of, or poor, isn't worth not bracing it right. it's not going to be audible. and bass race in 129.9, why, you have lofty goals for him. and you in 139.9, that's a hard number to hit in a small truck. hmm, with my sub change, i might possibly compete in that class with a sealed box in a fullsize xcab.

and you are juvenile fryfag. very much so. you think you know all there is too know, when you know nothing. i'm not without sin bro. never claimed to be. reread some of the first posts, the comments i'm making come from experience dipshit. i learned by building, making mistakes and fixing them. and listening to people who have more experience then i do. you on the other hand are without sin, or so you profess. there is nothing noone can teach you, because you can do, have done it all...save win a spelling bee.

get a giggle? cool, fine by me. but my builds don't get bashed. they never have. but wait, you don't care what people think, yet you still post pictures of your "build".

do us all a favor chris, listen a bit. open your ears, not your mouth. realize there is always going to be somebody better then you, no matter what you do. and when that person, or persons, try to pass on a bit of info, listen to it. learn from it. don't just chuck it aside because you've done it once or twice so you must be an expert.

or better yet, just giggle some more. and when you fail, at this like everything else in your life, you will have noone else to blame but ...wait, almost messed up...

you will have noone else to blame but your tools. the glue. the caulk. the subs. the wood. the driveway. whatever you can point to other then the little boy in the mirror.

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[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

and yet hes still talking ( fryFeg that is )

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

Yeah...just stop posting pics.

If you are going for SPL with this box, you went the wrong way man.

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

and yet hes still talking ( fryFeg that is )

yep still talking.

 

[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

well, i guess i should have made myself a bit more clear. your thought process, can i even call it that?, is that if you had proper bracing that the resulting airflow loss(?) would result in a weaker score. so i posted that whatever gain you might get with your bracing, which should have read lack of, or poor, isn't worth not bracing it right. it's not going to be audible. and bass race in 129.9, why, you have lofty goals for him. and you in 139.9, that's a hard number to hit in a small truck. hmm, with my sub change, i might possibly compete in that class with a sealed box in a fullsize xcab.


and you are juvenile fryfag. very much so. you think you know all there is too know, when you know nothing. i'm not without sin bro. never claimed to be. reread some of the first posts, the comments i'm making come from experience dipshit. i learned by building, making mistakes and fixing them. and listening to people who have more experience then i do. you on the other hand are without sin, or so you profess. there is nothing noone can teach you, because you can do, have done it all...save win a spelling bee.

get a giggle? cool, fine by me. but my builds don't get bashed. they never have. but wait, you don't care what people think, yet you still post pictures of your "build".

do us all a favor chris, listen a bit. open your ears, not your mouth. realize there is always going to be somebody better then you, no matter what you do. and when that person, or persons, try to pass on a bit of info, listen to it. learn from it. don't just chuck it aside because you've done it once or twice so you must be an expert.

or better yet, just giggle some more. and when you fail, at this like everything else in your life, you will have noone else to blame but ...wait, almost messed up...

you will have noone else to blame but your tools. the glue. the caulk. the subs. the wood. the driveway. whatever you can point to other then the little boy in the mirror.

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Owned

 

[matrxx dude 5,000+ posts]

lets see,he is only making 240 bucks from building a box,installing everthing from a -z in this car,yea the box aint perfect but dam im sure it will sound pretty good,if this guy wanted a really custom install he would have paid a way lot more than this.give someone a break.

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

No. Every point Kent is trying to make is that I'm a monkey with some power tools and I should dance to every SPL/install word he types. Panel flex isn’t always bad for SPL. That is one thing Kent taught me...well actually that was Ramos. Ramos went about it with some respect. Of course Ramos doesn’t act like the majority of my peers either.
The goal of this system is to shake windows and possibly bassrace. Clear mids and highs where also asked for. I am delivering. Kent things I should do it his way because he has been building for the evers.

He started out with screws are going to keep this 170dB beast box together. Then once that theory was thrown out the window he decides to attack the bracing which was preplanned in the enclosure design. But you know, the only thing he can say about me is the same thing him and all of his E-Friends we should all trust. "I'm teh CBFryman I knowz it all"

Like I said that. I'm willing to learn through constructive criticism, lost argument, etc… Not insult and immaturity. But if he wants to play the immature/insult game I can play it too.

no, the original post wasn't anything like that. it wasn't until you got defensive because i sadi that the screws should stay in, that i got offensive. you actually fired the first shot.....

chris, man o man....

to take the screws out and solely depend upon the glue...i wouldn't pay for that. yes, i know the majority of the strength comes from the physical bonding of the glue, but if you generate enough pressure....and yep, i've seen it a few times over. my advice? keep the screws in, and countersink them. if your bondoing the box anyway, it's not going to take any longer to fill with then it would without. and if you countersink, you can always router with the base on the screw side to avoid indentions as well.

my first post in this thread. just where am i holier than thou? point it out to me pleas, because i can't see it. maybe the i wouldn't pay for that? hmmm, seemd to me, i was the second or third person to say that.

hold on.......

agian, you do understand that carbide bits at 15000 RPM and screws dont mix right?
I've build boxes using strictly clamps and glue and they are just as structurally strong as boxes with the screws left in. This isnt going to be a 170dB set up that has the ability to shear wood. In order for the screws in the ends to add any stuctural integrity to the enclosure the forces on it would have to be so great that the wood would tear.

I understand your concerns but agian, this thread isn't about the mechanics of my enclosure construction process. Beleive it or not I've built and installed an enclosure or two in the past few years. I'm sorry for the hostility but screws on the edges of the wood simply are not going to add anything to this box. If you can show me defenetive results where screws kept a joint togather that was bonded correctly with wood glue I will tear the box down and start over.

who threw out the first bit of sarcasm? and who spouted off about their years of experience? who again did this first?

and if you bothered to understand what i was saying, you'd never introduce your roundover bit to the screw. you realize you can roundover from either panel, correct? so if the base of your router is on the panel the screws are shot from, the bit will never see the indention left from countersinking or the screwhead. and you wouldn't have the indentions. oh yeah, you might have a screwhead sticking out. my bad genious.

also, i have indeed seen boxes come apart that were assembled properly. but hey, what do i know? i've only been building boxes almost as long as you've been alive. i mean, why would anyone even bother to hint at helping you out, you already know it all and done it all.

truthfully, i think your ripping your friend off. your skills aren't that good. i'd have to have you pay me to build me a box.

second post and there is finally some sarcasm. and yet, there is still just simple advice in there. and OMG, there is a hint of sin in my post. i've seen a few boxes come apart, and still no signs of me saying anything about 170db anything. and i do hint at how long i've done this. and uhoh, me calling him a monkey as yet to service. but the first signs of slandere have indeed started.

Kent you are a wonderful addition to this thread. I must say. Every box I've built for someone else has been highly reguraded by everyone who heard it or inspected it's quality. How about you get off of your high horse, get out of my thread, and leave it the **** alone. 1/2" roundover bit will dig into the head of the screw no matter the way you round it over unless you countersink it 1/4" into the wood. Considering I dont have a counterink bit that will go that far I would have to use a drill bit wasteing even more time for a little bit of structural integrity in the hypothetical instance that the box is ran over by a semi?
And so the **** what you've been building as long as I've been alive. That makes your opinions and views of how I build the box superior? Agian I say get off of your high horse.

Incase you didnt notice because you decided to jump down my throat there is bracing that is holding the box togather even more. The bracing was cut short so the screws would pull the wood and it was placed so that the only pulling was from panels that are braced agianst other panels.

Grow up.

and it starts. chris has been offended, and somewhat called out. so let's get to the cursing and high horse and whatever else he's spouting off here. and yet, he's still blaming me for jumping down his throat.

let's see, my first post was nothing more then constructive criticisim, which you say you can handle. so why did you get defensive? because i got smartassy?

no, i didn't start this chris, you did. you say you can handle things, and hold your own, but i see none of that. i see a little boy who's frightened by his shortcomings and resorts to sarcasm and defensive language to appear smart and intelligent. and it makes him look arrogant and ignorant. and it must be fairly obvious to everyone but you chris. i'm not alone in the way i feel, can you explain why?

as of right now, your worse then a monkey with tools. a monkey can be trained. and ramos and i both pointed out the flexing/spl part, and you got wise with him as well. enough so, he won't comment in any of your threads. again, your percieved knowlege trumped his years of experience. one day you'll learn, what's on paper doesn't always translate to the real world. but i guess you knew that already too, right?

so bring it on big man. just be careful what you say, some people are genuine in this world.

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[viperrgh2 10+ year member]

matter of opinion. nothing wrong feeling as you do, that's cool. me? no way could i do anything less then my absolute best, no matter what i charge.
case in point, i just built a set of mtm's for a friend/customer. i thought my freehand routing skills were good enough to make the recess for the flush mounting of the speakers. when they weren't perfect, i pm'd the buyer with two options. one, i would buy the tools necessary and redo the baffles or two, if he like the cabinets as they sat, i'd refund as much money as was necessary to compensate for the sub par work. end result? i bought the tools, redid the baffles and the man is happier then all hell. as am i.

if yoru customer is happy with less then perfect, cool. if you are happy with less then perfect, cool. but some are not.

in this particular case, it's jsut as much about the person as it is his build. as long as your opinion matches his and what he has read, it's all good. but it doesn't matter how many cabinets one has built, or how much experience one has, his knowledge trumps all. you try and throw him some tips, you ask a few questions, and now your questioning his questionable manhood. and let's not get started on his spelling, his honors taking, college level courses spelling.

again, back to your post. if both parties agree with that, and the builder can live with that, more power to ya. personally, i have too much self pride, sinful as it may be, to do anything halfass.

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This is very true and I do try and give them the best but you can't always just make the best because you want to... practice makes perfect and before you have all that practice you simply won't have the best not to mention lack of funds to buy all the best and needed tools....

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

This is very true and I do try and give them the best but you can't always just make the best because you want to... practice makes perfect and before you have all that practice you simply won't have the best not to mention lack of funds to buy all the best and needed tools....

a person using cheap tools but the proper techniques is better then the person using the best tools and halfass technique. it's not always the quality of tools, but it is always the quality of the person and his techniques.

and part of learning is listening to those who have come before you. why falter through something when you don't have too?

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[Pyro_By_Nature 5,000+ posts]

Then I'd get confizzled. I get confizzled enough switching from router to sander. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

How in the hell do you have a problem with something so ****ing simple? Are you a retard?

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, I compete 139.9. But does that mean that I can only do a 139.9? **** NO! I'm bassracing high 140's with 1500w and soon to get louder. Let's see you do that with your sealed box. When I meet my bassrace goal for this car all of your useless comments will, agian, be thrown out of the window. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif it is 143. There will still be pics for people who might be interested and if you dont want to see them DONT COME IN MY BUILD LOG.

kthxbi.

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

How in the hell do you have a problem with something so ****ing simple? Are you a retard?

It's called a joke. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif