Featured 2010 ford ranger, which door speakers???

[slater]

The window guide?

Hes talking about the white pipe going horizontally through the entire door in the center.
It has huge globs of foam from the factory sandwiched between it & the outer skin.
Wouldnt look very pretty putting deadener over it but would help & who's going to see it....

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

This bar...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Hes talking about the white pipe going horizontally through the entire door in the center.
It has huge globs of foam from the factory sandwiched between it & the outer skin.
Wouldnt look very pretty putting deadener over it but would help & who's going to see it....

That foam adhesive "blob" was dry and hard in my first G6 and the bar buzzed real bad... then I deadened it lol.

 

[slater]

Making progress,
Tired of spinning my wheels, decided to go with 2 10" Hertz MPS 250's in a custom non pre-fabbed enclosure......

 

[slater]

All im going to say is it cranks, just got it back, even more so than my high dollar system....
Went with
cheap Recoil red1800.5 amp, $179 reg price & I paid $79
980 watts going to the 2 subs, dont have it wired down to 1 ohm, no reason to work the amp that hard.
220 watts going to ea driver.....
Cdt 62-hd, running them active crossed over through the amp, not using supplied crossovers that came with speakers.
2 Hertz mps 250 10" subs...
Kenwood Exeleon dmx908s
The box took up the entire width of the rear cab area...
We decided to trim the back wall plastics which had rear speaker mounts, more room for the box...
Happy with the decision even though could have been louder with the rear fill possibly?
My mind set was since its such a small cab, rear fill would have taken away from the sub separation.
Sound pretty amazing for not having all high-end equipment & loud...
Happy with the sound & son is beyond stoked....
Thanks to everyone who helped answer all my stupid questions,

This installer spoke his mind about the Recoil while we were discussing the install, but at the end of the day when all said & done he was surprised...
A though that crossed my mind, no idea if it would be good or bad for sound quality...
Theres alot of utilized power left in the amp im sure we can install another driver of some sort in the doors & possibly get some more loudness out of it.....
The kid is already messing with the EQ adjustments, playing with the built-in eq presets, etc...

Was really overthinking the subs, had to go shallow mount & so many great brands out there.....
I have hard time spending money & not being able to demo some brands out there which im sure would have cost less & possibly sounded better or just as good...
End of the day, the Hertz MPS 250's I know are in the upper range & not really a budget sub, not disappointed with the decision & sound quality.
Big bonus, zero rattles, not one....

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

Nothing better than when you do something like this and see the smile it brings to a kids face!

That is awesome.

 

[slater]

Nothing better than when you do something like this and see the smile it brings to a kids face!

That is awesome.

Think he genuinely seems appreciative...
Big smile...
Gave him the audio bug....

 

[Old_Slapper]

Nothing better than when you do something like this and see the smile it brings to a kids face!

That is awesome.

I agree. When I finished the system in my son's truck, the shocked look on his face when he heard how loud a single 12 can be was worth all the week it took to install it. All his other bodies have multiple subs, but my son's is much louder. He is so proud of it. I have to admit that I am also very proud of it. I got to show off my skills and show everyone how a true pro does it. LOL....

My daughter's convertible Mustang is next. I already have all the equipment, and the alarm is installed, which I did a couple weeks ago. Now I just need the time to install the audio.

 

[slater]

Looking for some insight & experiences on stuffing the box with some poly fill, fiberglass insulation, etc...
Sure many of you guys have played with it & trying to take the experimentation out of the equation.



Using the recoil red1800 amp we discussed.
So 900 watts to the 2 hertz mps 250 10” subs. Tight base coming out of this set up isn’t anything crazy amazing but it is what it is.
I am wanting to maybe add some poly fill and get some deeper base improvement as appears the deep low stuff is what my son really enjoys.
Going to give you some box dimensions and maybe you can tell me if poly fill will help and maybe how much do you suggest me adding?
Box is wedge style sealed
51 inches wide overall
16" tall
7 inch depth at the bottom
3 inch depth at the top
21 inches wide before the small restriction in the center to accommodate the armrest which the restriction is probably 6 inches wide
Including a picture

I don’t have any experience with how much poly fill
Have you used filled with great success in a positive direction?
What do you think of more the solid egg crate foam stuff?
Box is somewhat tall & dont want to spray glue it in...
So if the foam isnt a good idea ill use the sheet style filler so its not just balls of loose cotton.
Not wanting to spray glue in place or atleast minimal.


No idea if the box is ideal airspace for those speakers, or if he just slammed something together

One thing I’m not happy about is the MDF is only 5/8 thick but not much room behind the seat and didn’t want to see cramped all the way forward but we didn’t even discuss it, I figured it would’ve been 3/4
Also thinking the sheet style fill like fiberglass or similar?
Included a pic of some cheap sheet style poly fill "quilt batting" from Walmart, but im open to spending more for better results...
Not wanting to spray glue it into the box or very minimal, maybe top edges.
Figured if it was sheet style, would just stay in place, on the back wall & not drop down.

Anyways, thoughts, suggestions, experiences??

how much fill?

 

[Old_Slapper]

Putting poly-fill in your box will make your sub sound like it's in a bigger box. It will make the bass a little deeper and smoother.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

Going to give you some box dimensions and maybe you can tell me if poly fill will help and maybe how much do you suggest me adding?
Box is wedge style sealed
51 inches wide overall
7 inch depth at the bottom
3 inch depth at the top
21 inches wide before the small restriction in the center to accommodate the armrest which the restriction is probably 6 inches wide
Including a picture

I don’t have any experience with how much poly fill
Have you used filled with great success in a positive direction?
What do you think of more the solid egg crate foam stuff?
Box is somewhat tall & dont want to spray glue it in...
So if the foam isnt a good idea ill use the sheet style filler so its not just balls of loose cotton.
Not wanting to spray glue in place or atleast minimal.


No idea if the box is ideal airspace for those speakers, or if he just slammed something together

One thing I’m not happy about is the MDF is only 5/8 thick but not much room behind the seat and didn’t want to see cramped all the way forward but we didn’t even discuss it, I figured it would’ve been 3/4
Also thinking the sheet style fill like fiberglass or similar?
Included a pic of some cheap sheet style poly fill "quilt batting" from Walmart, but im open to spending more for better results...
Not wanting to spray glue it into the box or very minimal, maybe top edges.
Figured if it was sheet style, would just stay in place, on the back wall & not drop down.

Anyways, thoughts, suggestions, experiences??

how much fill?

From the IM I sent you:

As for stuffing a sealed cab, I use Acousta-stuf because nobody to date, nada have been able to confirm that regular old poly-fill is the same product, I don't think it is. I've tried to find the definitive answer, for years and it isn't out there that I can find and there is a difference in the fiber and how it's cut, made, and that may make the difference.

Granted, $30 versus $5.95 is a bit of a dif, but not really in the scheme of things.

The generally accepted rule is 1lb of long haired wool (very $$) or Acousta-stuf per 1 cu ft. of airspace. Only recently have they done any real test to see why some think stuffed sound better as it was generally accepted that the only scientific reasons is that it tricks the woofer into thinking it is a bigger box than it really is. They now know that it also reduces intermodular hormonic distortion within the box too. Therefore, I would expect that it sounds better, but that doesn't necessarily translate to a lot lower frequency output, if any that you can really notice anyway,

I've often stated that I always stuff my sealed enclosures with long haired wool or Acousta-stuf, it just sounds better - for whatever reason, it's not simply imagined.

 

[BP1Fanatic]

Think the door utilize a 6x8 stock speaker.
so can do 6.5", 7.0", 6x9", etc....

Thanks

Ford, Mercury, and Lincoln use 6x8's.

You can use a 6.5" adapter or make a 5.25" mid & tweeter component plate. I had Blaupunkt 5.25" component plates on the deck of 1983 Mercury Grand Marquis LS in 1995-2003. I won the Blaupunkts in a pizza eating contest at a car audio event.

Here are 6.5" adapters in a 2010 Grand Marquis and 2011 Ford Crown Vic.

I'm currently installing a system in the MGM.

 

[BP1Fanatic]

I also had a 1996 Ranger SuperCab from 2003-2012.

 

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