(2) IDMAX v.3 VS. (1) RE XXX '06

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what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You can talk all you want about your "1 idmax" and say how efficient and all that bull-crap. Idmax ****, they can't take rated watts. I don't know why its so hard for you to understand. Your stupid and Ignorant. I have yet to see you making a valid point! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif Until idmax can make something that can take rated power they will ****. Why you think everyone is complaining. They are feeding the Idmax rated power and they blow up.

 
Efficient - Acting or producing effectively with a minimum of waste, expense, or unnecessary effort.

in other words, it'll do what it's suppose to with lesser wattage.

 
satisfied customers LOL. You must be smoking something again. Its amazing, how people comment by hype, rumors etc, especially when they have never really owned whatever they are commenting on.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif I guess your one of them Internet disc riders! Congratulates //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/graduate.gif.d982460be9f153bb54e5d4cb744f6ae8.gif "Many Satisfied" LOL! Morons, do exist 1000 watts and IDmax lol. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif I suggest you stop riding other peoples nuts. Comment on something you have owned before you start ludacris assumption's.
Im making ludacris assumptions? What facts are you basing your knowledge of my experience on? *laff* Ive owned Image Dynamics drivers since before you knew the company existed.
Your continual regurgitation of the arguement 'it blew with rated power' when people try to discuss slightly more complex topics like efficiency just tell me you really have no idea what you are talking about. You made the comment what good is efficiency if the driver wont handle rated power... again speaking when you should be reading and learning. For example, read up on Hoffman's Iron Law, maybe you'll figure out what efficiency can and cannot do for a speaker. For another example, if you truely understand even the fundamentals of how a speaker creates sound as an electromagnetic transducer, you would understand it doesn't matter if the driver reaches full potential at 1000 watts, 1 million watts, or 1 watt. Oh Im sure you thnk you understand, and probably fundamentally you understand what Im talking about here... but you cannot seem to apply that logic to this situation. Keep trying, we'll wait.

Also, where have you even told us how the speaker 'blew'? For all we know, your moronic *** built the wrong box and 'blew' it mechanically. Or let the sub unload, or ran the bassboost and would never admit it now, etc etc.

Secondly, omfg you just might have gotten one defective driver! *gasp* You even said so yourself. Lets not have a heart attack jumping to conclusions (or as you put it, ludacris assumptions). It happens.

Lastly, to be frank, Im not at all confident you really know enough to set your gains properly, using a DMM or not. Im not about to make the ludacris assumption you have a clue. Whine and snivel your sub died all you want, the IDMax has lasted the test of time. Im sorry yours didn't last the test of your intelligence. Luckily your new XXX is so inefficient, it has one huge idiot-buffer. Now run along and make a post telling everyone how superior your sub is due to power handling.

 
What build quality you speak off? Efficiency, Performance? What good is efficiency when it can't take rated watts? Build Quality? LOL //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif With 500 watts its reaching Maximum efficiency? When its rated at 1000 watts?
lol what an idiot... looks like another JL/RE fanboy to me.

 
You can talk all you want about your "1 idmax" and say how efficient and all that bull-crap. Idmax ****, they can't take rated watts. I don't know why its so hard for you to understand. Your stupid and Ignorant. I have yet to see you making a valid point! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif Until idmax can make something that can take rated power they will ****. Why you think everyone is complaining. They are feeding the Idmax rated power and they blow up.
Can you say hippocrite with bad grammar? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 
Wait i can fix this. I will change a number arbitarly and like magic appears........the IDMAX will impress this guy...................ready? Dont blink. The IDMAX is rated at 1w RMS. Lets just say that from now on. Doesnt that fix it?

 
I have actually heard of reliability problems with both of those drivers. The IDMax's from having too much power, and the XXX catching fire/catching boxes on fire. Based on research and what I have heard, you should be careful sending IDMax's exactly 1000 rms each. They are very efficient and do not respond well to too much power, and that is right at their rms.
No the don't respond well to idiots behind a volume/gain knob.
word, idiots who use the gain as a volume knob!
this guy is great.

 
Idamx ****. 99% of the people blew them because they give it rated watts. 1% of them think they have the best woofer in the world! My point is simple to understand, why rate a woofer 1000 watts when it reaches peak efficiency at 500 watts? But then again its rated 1000 watts RMS! So what now? Don't give me this efficiency bullshit! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif So I guess giving it 2000 watts with my orion was over doing it. Because it reaches peak efficiency at 500 watts. LOL. But its rated at 1000 watts RMS. LOL

 
Im making ludacris assumptions? What facts are you basing your knowledge of my experience on? *laff* Ive owned Image Dynamics drivers since before you knew the company existed.
Your continual regurgitation of the arguement 'it blew with rated power' when people try to discuss slightly more complex topics like efficiency just tell me you really have no idea what you are talking about. You made the comment what good is efficiency if the driver wont handle rated power... again speaking when you should be reading and learning. For example, read up on Hoffman's Iron Law, maybe you'll figure out what efficiency can and cannot do for a speaker. For another example, if you truely understand even the fundamentals of how a speaker creates sound as an electromagnetic transducer, you would understand it doesn't matter if the driver reaches full potential at 1000 watts, 1 million watts, or 1 watt. Oh Im sure you thnk you understand, and probably fundamentally you understand what Im talking about here... but you cannot seem to apply that logic to this situation. Keep trying, we'll wait.

Also, where have you even told us how the speaker 'blew'? For all we know, your moronic *** built the wrong box and 'blew' it mechanically. Or let the sub unload, or ran the bassboost and would never admit it now, etc etc.

Secondly, omfg you just might have gotten one defective driver! *gasp* You even said so yourself. Lets not have a heart attack jumping to conclusions (or as you put it, ludacris assumptions). It happens.

Lastly, to be frank, Im not at all confident you really know enough to set your gains properly, using a DMM or not. Im not about to make the ludacris assumption you have a clue. Whine and snivel your sub died all you want, the IDMax has lasted the test of time. Im sorry yours didn't last the test of your intelligence. Luckily your new XXX is so inefficient, it has one huge idiot-buffer. Now run along and make a post telling everyone how superior your sub is due to power handling.

You can make all the excuse you want your entitled to. My reasons why idmax **** have been pointed out. The truth hurts. You can complain about my box, my wiring, my incompetence etc. The end of the day, Idamx will still blow up. So no point in defending a woofer that is garbage. I spoke to Matt over at Image dynamics, he told me he was going to send me a new set. I told him I will take it back and return the woofer.

 
Im making ludacris assumptions? What facts are you basing your knowledge of my experience on? *laff* Ive owned Image Dynamics drivers since before you knew the company existed.
Your continual regurgitation of the arguement 'it blew with rated power' when people try to discuss slightly more complex topics like efficiency just tell me you really have no idea what you are talking about. You made the comment what good is efficiency if the driver wont handle rated power... again speaking when you should be reading and learning. For example, read up on Hoffman's Iron Law, maybe you'll figure out what efficiency can and cannot do for a speaker. For another example, if you truely understand even the fundamentals of how a speaker creates sound as an electromagnetic transducer, you would understand it doesn't matter if the driver reaches full potential at 1000 watts, 1 million watts, or 1 watt. Oh Im sure you thnk you understand, and probably fundamentally you understand what Im talking about here... but you cannot seem to apply that logic to this situation. Keep trying, we'll wait.

Also, where have you even told us how the speaker 'blew'? For all we know, your moronic *** built the wrong box and 'blew' it mechanically. Or let the sub unload, or ran the bassboost and would never admit it now, etc etc.

Secondly, omfg you just might have gotten one defective driver! *gasp* You even said so yourself. Lets not have a heart attack jumping to conclusions (or as you put it, ludacris assumptions). It happens.

Lastly, to be frank, Im not at all confident you really know enough to set your gains properly, using a DMM or not. Im not about to make the ludacris assumption you have a clue. Whine and snivel your sub died all you want, the IDMax has lasted the test of time. Im sorry yours didn't last the test of your intelligence. Luckily your new XXX is so inefficient, it has one huge idiot-buffer. Now run along and make a post telling everyone how superior your sub is due to power handling.

You can make all the excuse you want your entitled to. My reasons why idmax **** have been pointed out. The truth hurts. You can complain about my box, my wiring, my incompetence etc. The end of the day, Idamx will still blow up. So no point in defending a woofer that is garbage. I spoke to Matt over at Image dynamics, he told me he was going to send me a new set. I told him I will take it back and return the woofer.

 
I didn't think you'd be addressing any of the above statements. It would probably be best to just save face and leave.
Coming for a village idiot I couldn't agree more. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/graduate.gif.d982460be9f153bb54e5d4cb744f6ae8.gif

 
Idamx ****. 99% of the people blew them because they give it rated watts. 1% of them think they have the best woofer in the world! My point is simple to understand, why rate a woofer 1000 watts when it reaches peak efficiency at 500 watts? But then again its rated 1000 watts RMS! So what now? Don't give me this efficiency bullshit! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif So I guess giving it 2000 watts with my orion was over doing it. Because it reaches peak efficiency at 500 watts. LOL. But its rated at 1000 watts RMS. LOL
More gibberish that show you dont even understand efficiency and how it fits this conversation. Speakers do not 'reach peak efficiency' at a given wattage. At this point its clear having a meaningful debate with you on this subject is folly, as the discussion has gone over your head. Now Im just having fun.

How about this, to satisfy you, lets rate the IDMax at 800 watts. OMG its 'quality' just went up, according to your reasoning. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif

You can make all the excuse you want your entitled to. My reasons why idmax **** have been pointed out. The truth hurts. You can complain about my box, my wiring, my incompetence etc. The end of the day, Idamx will still blow up. So no point in defending a woofer that is garbage. I spoke to Matt over at Image dynamics, he told me he was going to send me a new set. I told him I will take it back and return the woofer.
The truth hurt. lol Yeah, Im dying over here. I guess if your 'ludacris assumptions' about my experience fail, you move on to acting like Im butt hurt. Nice try, but the painful truth here is you are an idiot, and now the entire board knows it. Yeah, you're killin me. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
 
1000 watts, is a number they pulled out of your *** LOL. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

But Peak efficiency happens at 800 watts?? LOL! Why didn't IDmax put a Peak wattage of 500-800 watts? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif

Maybe if they did we wouldn't have been having this argument. 1000 watts is a big overrated figure, if it reach peak efficiency at certain watts lol. So I guess its my fault because it blew up and I had everything upside down. LOL! I understand what you heifers are saying. Idmax reaching efficiency at less then 1000 watts. But why didn't they rate it lower where it reaches peak efficiency? Not sure whats so hard to understand. Or put a sign subwoofer will blow up if given 1000 watts. LOL!

 
these last few pages of this thread are funny...

what are the benefits of using less power? getting likable results with a smaller amp and or subs/boxes. wasted power is just that. why get dual alts, 300 amp alts and 8 batteries if what you build with 10k watts is no better than what someone else can do with 2500 watts? on another side of this hmmm wonder what happens when we try over driving speakers in the wrong boxes?hmmmm "it says 1000 watts!" is about as good of an argument as trying to explain to someone you shouldn't turn your gains all the way up or the volume dial on the CD player lol. in real life at the retail level i had many conversations about that and every time only answer i would get back is "i turn it up it gets louder if it wasn't supposed to be the way i want it it wouldn't be able to turn up so loud!!" then after 6 trips on warranty the company final says "we wont warranty this any more" then same people change brands and either get smart or think everything is junk...

 
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