Ill make you all a deal. Please dont flame me for this. Im going against everyones advise, even the salesman. I will get those jl audio subs and amps stick with em and let you guys know how they perform. Im willing to be the test dummy, and possibly a dummy in general just to prove they are worth the price. Who knows maybe im wrong but id like to find out for myself. Same way i had to find out buying a brand new wrx was a bad idea, perhaps ill learn from this too, or not, could be a good investment. But i will do a build log or video detailing the rest of the way from here on out. This way even if i dont stay on this forum forever, for those that do will have evidence that this was a good or bad idea. I dont beleive in religion but i have faith this will be a halfway descent setup even though it might cost be 5 grand including tools for the total build