2 10w6v3 and ported enclosure 500 bucks!

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

real time analyzer with a proper curve. Very easy to measure since the pressure levels arent anywhere near as high, a cheap dayton mic can do the job just fine while spl gear aka termlab magnum costs upwards of 600 dollars to accurately measure the high pressure levels.
You can basically figure out due to how much speakers you've owned and heard. along with seeing how they measure on the RTA. this is all experienced base, not something you can search up.

Experience is what somebody fails to understand.

All the tech knowledge in the world can't save you at this party.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Really. Watch the video. He shows how to take measurements. You read a few points around your head. Both ears and nose.

You want ideally complete seperation between. Both channels but its nearly impossible.

Even reflections off the seat skew phase and response

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

every now and again I like to to cut a few places to shape the sound dude. also if I lower the tweeters equally it doesn't shift the stage but lowers the boosted top end and vice versa.. lord have mercy.. some recording the **** guitar is too over powering I hate it. its not boosted VIA the speakers its the recording. I have a decent RTA on my phone with a mic made for tuning my home audio system. SMH

I agree. I'm no where near an SQ expert. I like my shit loud. I change my eq with almost eveery song, but comps are an entirely different beast.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

You want ideally complete seperation between. Both channels but its nearly impossible.Even reflections off the seat skew phase and response

Are you going to keep going on or listen to someone that's successful and many other successful people?

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I agree. I'm no where near an SQ expert. I like my shit loud. I change my eq with most very song, but comps are an entirely different beast.

It's like that going black and never going back thing.

Once you nailed it you won't have it any other way. It's still loud but you don't know how loud it is until you try to talk or open the doors and step back. Or when running 80 down the high way with all the windows down and it sounds the same as all closed up.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Experience is what somebody fails to understand. All the tech knowledge in the world can't save you at this party.

Ive never competed. I expect to learn.

Let me say this. I've been testing drivers for a long time. Not only on a bench and designs but useing the and going from baseline parameters to being install and real world measurments. First I have to perfect the drivers for the application. After that it's installing them as intended.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Are you going to keep going on or listen to someone that's successful and many other successful people?

You think i don't listen thats where you underestimate.

I take suggestions and apply them. All of them.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

It's like that going black and never going back thing.

Haha literally lol. Love that.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Haha literally lol. Love that.

Sounds like he got some manpussy

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Ive never competed. I expect to learn.Let me say this. I've been testing drivers for a long time. Not only on a bench and designs but useing the and going from baseline parameters to being install and real world measurments. First I have to perfect the drivers for the application. After that it's installing them as intended.

Don't worry so much about the drivers. You can make them ruler flat near field all you want. Stick them in the car and it all changes.

Andy W. made a post a few years ago where he had a set of very flat mids. Then took a measurement near field in the car. It looked like hell. And that was near feild. It looked even worse at the headrest.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Don't worry so much about the drivers. You can make them ruler flat near field all you want. Stick them in the car and it all changes. Andy W. made a post a few years ago where he had a set of very flat mids. Then took a measurement near field in the car. It looked like hell. And that was near feild. It looked even worse at the headrest.

This soo much...

I tested a lot of 6.5s that sounded good in a bookshelf speaker box but sounded like **** in a car door. Even after door treatments its not even remotely close to the sealed box. too much reflections. Hence the importance of sound processing over speaker design.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

This soo much...
I tested a lot of 6.5s that sounded good in a bookshelf speaker box but sounded like **** in a car door. Even after door treatments its not even remotely close to the sealed box. too much reflections. Hence the importance of sound processing over speaker design.

He never did talk about what he was hearing in a few easy songs I gave him.

 

[DarkKnightSM]

So correct me if im wrong but the point of bass is to feel it correct? Not nessesarly hear it. Obviously with the amount of air being moved no matter what your gonna hear it. But from a sq point of view i am deadset on the idea of the sub being directly behind the driver and passenger seats, not in the trunk. The bass kicks me in the back and gives my music more of a 3d feel, as opposed to having it in the trunk. Granted i have zero sound dampening and my trunk rattles to hell when its back there, it just seems better, and less work on the sub to have it directly behind you. Ive never heard a fully sound deadened car before but it seems counter intuitive regardless of how much sound deaden is in the trunk. Again i want to feel the bass, no hear it, bounce off the rear of the trunk, or resonate from the whole vehicle. People keep saying if its in the cabin it cancels it self out or whatever. Somehow i highly doubt this. Honestly, whatever happens to the sound waves AFTER it passes me, why should i care. It doesnt drown out my front stage so with that being said, im thinking about pursueing the idea of going 3 subs and taking out my entire back seat and putting the subs there, facing the front. I think sealing off the trunk, however that may be accomplished, would be way better then fighting trunk rattle. I dont need my rear seat anyway. Im sure this has been beat to death but i am not convinced that trunk bass will ever be as good as cabin bass.

Edit: i should also note...

To do this right i would imagine i would have to completely take the bottom and back of the rear seat out, replace it with some sort of flat wood or metal wear the bottom and back of the seat used to be. Ensuring a complete seal off from the trunk entirely and that the subs had a firm, flat surface to rest on that would not absorb the base and lose part of the soundwave on the surface. This has got to be a sure fire way to perfect cabin bass.

Granted i will only ever be able to carry two people in the car, myself included. Its a sacrifice im willing to make. Id love to hear someones setup that has done something similiar

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

The point is to be like you are at a live show. At a live show you hear more then you feel.

For a SQ aspect the bass will come from where ever it is at a live show. Not behind you.

You can get that with it in the trunk or under the dash.

 

[DarkKnightSM]

The point is to be like you are at a live show. At a live show you hear more then you feel.For a SQ aspect the bass will come from where ever it is at a live show. Not behind you.

You can get that with it in the trunk or under the dash.

To be honest, ive never cared for live shows that much. Ive been to a few and the live performance is usually not as good as a studio recorded song. Dont get me wrong, the excitment and thrill of being at a live concert is unreal. But sad to say, i think i will always prefer studio recorded vs live. So when i keep asking this question and people answer, majority of opinions will be based off how live shows feel? Pooey