10's or 8's...worried about low end.

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

it's just natural that the bigger the sub, the better it plays low... granted a ported box can minimize or eliminate the advantage, but since space seems such a restriction, i would say you are going to go sealed, in which case you are gunna have a hard time emphasizing any lows from 8'swhereas you could go 10's, and get more natural lows without sacraficing output or clarity at higher levels...

Sd is only one portion of the equation in displacement potential. If you dont know what that means, or how it relates to what ive quoted... you should.
He has space restrictions that require he goes with a sealed 10. I fail to see how you equate this to mean a comparable system running an 8 must also be sealed. Generally speaking, an 8 ported will take approx the same size as a 10 sealed.

imo... just because you CAN get just as much performance out of a smaller sub doesn't mean you should if you don't have to...

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Someone should sig this.
I do agree with you on one thing though, your mom's trunk slams.

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

oh my shit, Bill cracks me up:laugh:And was this guy for real?? The ohms on the stroker were adjustable??

I'm at a loss for words. Is everyone that smart on this site or did I just miss this fact in my twelve years into car audio??

yeah that was for real. i am seriously shocked that you have this supposed 12 years of experience and you still didnt know that... did you ever even try to adjust your ohms?

like i said, thats why alot of people liked the strokers for SPL, because there are nearly infinite ohm possibilities. plus, you can set it to SPL ohms for a competition, and then change it to daily driving ohms or SQ ohms for the rest of the times //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[cam5860 10+ year member]

The only time I was impressed with 8's was when a guy I knew had two 8's in a bandpass box in his trunk. Now the output he was getting from those was amazing. But putting 8's in a sealed box is a waste of time. Like old boy said why would you want to go with 8's if you can fit 10's in there. I had two 8's behind my seat several times. And also one 10. But I'm hear to tell you can get way more bass output from a single 10 than two 8's. I mean far as being loud it's about the same. But you can feel more bass with a 10 rather than two 8's.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

I do agree with you on one thing though, your mom's trunk slams.

Don't you mean that you slammed his mom's trunk?

Midbass in the house!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Actually they sucked on the midbass. Kickdrum and double bass...that was a different story //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[dB-SPL 10+ year member]

The only time I was impressed with 8's was when a guy I knew had two 8's in a bandpass box in his trunk. Now the output he was getting from those was amazing. But putting 8's in a sealed box is a waste of time. Like old boy said why would you want to go with 8's if you can fit 10's in there. I had two 8's behind my seat several times. And also one 10. But I'm hear to tell you can get way more bass output from a single 10 than two 8's. I mean far as being loud it's about the same. But you can feel more bass with a 10 rather than two 8's.

So what you're saying is.. If I get a Kicker Comp 10", I will feel more bass rather than two RLi-8's?

-Bill-

 

[cam5860 10+ year member]

Hey thats a **** nice box you built there bud. Now put some carpet on it and let the midbass slam.

 

[cam5860 10+ year member]

No see you want to give the 10 a unfair advantage. Thats like saying let me put my 2 8w7 up against your mtx thunder 4500. You want to take the best 8's money can buy and compare them to a rock bottom 10. I tell ya what you take your RLi-8's and let me compare a 10w7 to it in the same vehicle and see which gets the most bass response.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

dude just give up

 

[dB-SPL 10+ year member]

No see you want to give the 10 a unfair advantage. Thats like saying let me put my 2 8w7 up against your mtx thunder 4500. You want to take the best 8's money can buy and compare them to a rock bottom 10. I tell ya what you take your RLi-8's and let me compare a 10w7 to it in the same vehicle and see which gets the most bass response.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif If you insist..

-Bill-

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

Now put some carpet on it and let the midbass slam.

Yeah, you're right...carpet would make it sound better...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

You've got it all figured out. Size means everything when it comes to frequency response. 15" pro audio midranges don't do nearly as good a job as 2" mids. They can't possibly because they're big and slow.

If you knew jack about shit it might be worth arguing with you, but you don't even have enough knowledge to understand the facts that you're presented with so I would be wasting my time.

How about compare apples to apples. Put a pair of Rl-i 8s against an Rl-i 10. Same motor. The only variables would be the size of the drivers and the enclosure.

 

[plushDJ 10+ year member]

yeah that was for real. i am seriously shocked that you have this supposed 12 years of experience and you still didnt know that... did you ever even try to adjust your ohms?
like i said, thats why alot of people liked the strokers for SPL, because there are nearly infinite ohm possibilities. plus, you can set it to SPL ohms for a competition, and then change it to daily driving ohms or SQ ohms for the rest of the times //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

bah??? Um.....the only way you can 'adjust' the ohms on a speaker is if it's dvc you can wire in parallel or series to 'change' the ohms (notice the quotations). There is no magical dial you can turn to change the resistance on a voicecoil. It is how it's made. If a coil is made with a 4 ohm resistance it's four ohms, if it's made with a resistance of 2 ohms, it's 2 ohms. PERIOD. That's like saying you can adjust your skin color by twisting your nipple. Clockwise for lighter, counterclockwise for darker lol. The old strokers came in dual 4's and dual 2's, hence their 18d2 or 18d4 product names. I'm sorry man but maybe you have to be more specific on what you mean by 'adjust the ohms' on a sub because right now you're making no sense.

 

[sqhertz 5,000+ posts]

bah??? Um.....the only way you can 'adjust' the ohms on a speaker is if it's dvc you can wire in parallel or series to 'change' the ohms (notice the quotations). There is no magical dial you can turn to change the resistance on a voicecoil. It is how it's made. If a coil is made with a 4 ohm resistance it's four ohms, if it's made with a resistance of 2 ohms, it's 2 ohms. PERIOD. That's like saying you can adjust your skin color by twisting your nipple. Clockwise for lighter, counterclockwise for darker lol. The old strokers came in dual 4's and dual 2's, hence their 18d2 or 18d4 product names. I'm sorry man but maybe you have to be more specific on what you mean by 'adjust the ohms' on a sub because right now you're making no sense.

sure you can. didnt you read any of this informational thread? one of my tc's have 8 mounting holes and the other 6 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif. my ohmage is mismatching. thats why my midbass is loud.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

bah??? Um.....the only way you can 'adjust' the ohms on a speaker is if it's dvc you can wire in parallel or series to 'change' the ohms (notice the quotations). There is no magical dial you can turn to change the resistance on a voicecoil. It is how it's made. If a coil is made with a 4 ohm resistance it's four ohms, if it's made with a resistance of 2 ohms, it's 2 ohms. PERIOD. That's like saying you can adjust your skin color by twisting your nipple. Clockwise for lighter, counterclockwise for darker lol. The old strokers came in dual 4's and dual 2's, hence their 18d2 or 18d4 product names. I'm sorry man but maybe you have to be more specific on what you mean by 'adjust the ohms' on a sub because right now you're making no sense.

That was just funny.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

"FS: 12" L7 DVC-4. 3 of the ohms fell out of it so $50 shipped"
After purchase..

"WTB Ohms. Looking for a pack of 6 so I have spairs"

-Bill-

lol

lol

lol

+1

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

bah??? Um.....the only way you can 'adjust' the ohms on a speaker is if it's dvc you can wire in parallel or series to 'change' the ohms (notice the quotations). There is no magical dial you can turn to change the resistance on a voicecoil. It is how it's made. If a coil is made with a 4 ohm resistance it's four ohms, if it's made with a resistance of 2 ohms, it's 2 ohms. PERIOD. That's like saying you can adjust your skin color by twisting your nipple. Clockwise for lighter, counterclockwise for darker lol. The old strokers came in dual 4's and dual 2's, hence their 18d2 or 18d4 product names. I'm sorry man but maybe you have to be more specific on what you mean by 'adjust the ohms' on a sub because right now you're making no sense.

Pretty much none of what Hoss has said in here has been serious.

Internet sarcasm > joo