Interested in SA xv3 15 d2 but need box advice

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I’m looking to buy one and I have a box w/a FI 15 Ssd4 v3 d2 that almost meet the SA specs (4.12 after displacement). If I invert the sub, I should be close.

I’m possibly going to redesign my box out of new material and when running WinSid, I couldn’t find the xmax on SA’s website.

Im not the best at calculating boxes so can someone verify my results?

3cu tuned to 26hz on 2700 rms.
looking for no ripple on tuning or very minimal ripple.

tyvm!
 
I’m looking to buy one and I have a box w/a FI 15 Ssd4 v3 d2 that almost meet the SA specs (4.12 after displacement). If I invert the sub, I should be close.

I’m possibly going to redesign my box out of new material and when running WinSid, I couldn’t find the xmax on SA’s website.

Im not the best at calculating boxes so can someone verify my results?

3cu tuned to 26hz on 2700 rms.
looking for no ripple on tuning or very minimal ripple.

tyvm!
That is a fairly low tuning point for a 15", everything I can read (on what I think is that driver) says tuning is around 30-32hz which seems more viable.

The last driver with that model that I can use in BASS Box Pro is from 2012 so if you got it new up to around 2016 I'm guessing that it's the same driver.

It indicates the driver parameters are:

Driver Properties
Name: SSD15 (dual 2) (2012)
Type: Standard one-way driver
Company: Fi Car Audio
Comment: SSD series
No. of Drivers = 1
Dual voice coils = parallel
Fs = 29.6 Hz
Qms = 8.73
Vas = 93 liters
Xmax = 20 mm
Sd = 810 sq.cm
Qes = 0.43
Re = 0.7 ohm
Z = 1 ohm
Pe = 1000 watts

That is the thermal limits and even giving room for rise and things, maybe 12-1500 watt burst are possible. Still, even if that holds, 2700 watts will likely toast the driver.
A ran the specs on that driver and at 2700 watts you will have major issues with cone displacement (fried).

At the given Pe rate of 1000 watts, in a box with a Vb of 4.69 cu ft (that is after displacement for port, driver and braces (about .35 cu ft) your cone displacement is as follows:

Okay at 1000 watts
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Not acceptable at 2600 watts
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Response curve:
Good
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Vent velocity with a 6" round (didn't calculate a slot port, don;t know the dimensions but the area of a 6" port is 28.27" sq Inches) vent that is 22.35" long

Acceptable at 1000 watts

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Not acceptable at 2600 watts
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You will need to rethink this a bit.
 
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I think you have an older version, the v.3 is as followed for the D2

SPECIFICATIONS​

T/S SPECSX V.3 15″ D1X V.3 15″ D2
RE (Ohms)1.43.2
FS (Hz)31.41831.423
VAS (L)45.90745.924
Qes0.4860.561
Qms2.5622.801
Qts0.4090.468
Le (mH)
BL (NA)15.51821.831
Mms (Grams)423.721423.436
Cms (uM/N)60.56360.585
Sens (dB @ 1w/1m)86.5dB85.9dB

ENCLOSURE SPECIFICATIONS​

X v.3 15
Sealed EnclosureN/A
Ported Enclosure4.25 cu ft
Recommended Tuning32hz
Recommended Port Area68 sq in
Displacement0.22 cu ft
Depth11.6"
Outside Diam.15.51"
Cutout13.83"
 
to run it in BB Pro, would like to have the Xmax, Sd, Le and Z values too. The specs you give has the driver with a higher Fs though.

I can tell you what to tune a 4 cu ft box at 26 hz is but that doesn't tell you the whole story. Lets take it to 29hz and this is till subjective. My figure assumes a Vb of 3.25 cu ft after port and driver displacement. In a 4 cubic foot (gross) box tuned to 29 hz you will want a port that has a 28 sq inch opening that is 23.25" in length.

I would advise having someone run WinISD for this though.
 
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to run it in BB Pro, would like to have the Xmax, Sd, Le and Z values too. The specs you give has the driver with a higher Fs though.

I can tell you what to tune a 4 cu ft box at 26 hz is but that doesn't tell you the whole story. Lets take it to 29hz and this is till subjective. My figure assumes a Vb of 3.25 cu ft after port and driver displacement. In a 4 cubic foot (gross) box tuned to 29 hz you will want a port that has a 28 sq inch opening that is 23.25" in length.

I would advise having someone run WinISD for this though.
Yeah it’s weird, I’m finding a few other forums asking for more info on specs.
 
I'd tune 30hz myself in the 4.25ft3 net recommended, that amount of port (68in2) will need to be right around 40" long. It'll be able to dig deep but without losing too much of that SPL for the occasional smile. Its been awhile since I've seen @West1 on this board... What's up man? What vehicle are you putting this X in? Are you planning to use that FSD for the single X-15? On that power, in that airspace I'd set the SSF around 24hz and let that sub eat. It looks like just the right amount of power for that X and once setup it should be comfy as long as you watch clipping and use your head.
 
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I'd tune 30hz myself in the 4.25ft3 net recommended, that amount of port (68in2) will need to be right around 40" long. It'll be able to dig deep but without losing too much of that SPL for the occasional smile. Its been awhile since I've seen @West1 on this board... What's up man? What vehicle are you putting this X in? Are you planning to use that FSD for the single X-15? On that power, in that airspace I'd set the SSF around 24hz and let that sub eat. It looks like just the right amount of power for that X and once setup it should be comfy as long as you watch clipping and use your head.
Hey what’s up bro! Yeah, been a while since I’ve been on.
Yes, going to use the FSD (good memory man!). It’s still kicking strong on the FI ssdV.4 15.
I plan to put it in my 21 Tahoe. Recently, I seen a zv6 for a good price, about 250miles away, I’m considering the drive 😂.

You get the bug and put some beat back in your ride? Last we spoke, you were done w/car audio
 
I got a KILLER system now, it'll make your ears bleed (literally). Deck power on coax with a kicker comp 12. I'm pretty done with big systems myself but I still mess around designing.
You got plenty of space to work with, so fitting a single X-15 in there should be no problem. I actually modeled your setup and everything looks good in that airspace/tuning on your power with the SSF set at 24hz. If you'd like I can knock out a design for you, just decide what sub you're going to use. That X should do great and the Zv6 should work in the same enclosure.
 
I got a KILLER system now, it'll make your ears bleed (literally). Deck power on coax with a kicker comp 12. I'm pretty done with big systems myself but I still mess around designing.
You got plenty of space to work with, so fitting a single X-15 in there should be no problem. I actually modeled your setup and everything looks good in that airspace/tuning on your power with the SSF set at 24hz. If you'd like I can knock out a design for you, just decide what sub you're going to use. That X should do great and the Zv6 should work in the same enclosure.
I knew you couldn’t call it quits!! Although I’ve been saying “this is my last sub” for approximately 10yrs now Lol.

Thanks bro. I need to make a decision on which direction to go haha
 
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@shredder1 hey bro, if I go with the Zv6 15” d2, what mods would I have to make to the current box to get between 29-30hz? I was thinking about mounting the sub external but then the magnet would block my view behind. I was thinking about A) cutting the top off and gluing more height so the sub mounts in the box or B) adding ___” of a MDF rings so the sub sits inside box.
Do you need more pics of the custom box that sits on an angle behind the 3rd row?
 

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