I have this dual 10" subs from mtx they are old idk what year for sure if anyone knows that would be helpful I'm trying to figure out the wattage so I can figure out what amp I should get when I get a car to put it in and I already know a bunch of you are gonna say they are trash but they'll take way more abuse then any new subs I've tried to blow them for almost a year and they won't and yes it's the original box I had to remove the carpet from it because it sat in a basement for 12 years so it was covered in mold and I restored the box