so is sundown worth the money

[RBarlow]

i have planning on buying a pair or 12s from them for awhile now but now that im getting teady to pull the trigger im having cold feet and researching every company i can come across unfort alot of these companies have none in stock anyway so they come right off the list but id like to know if ppl are generally happy and think they spent their money well? thx

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[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

I have loved all of my Sundown woofers but their prices have gone up quite a bit.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

I think everyone's prices on everything have gone up a lot. We magic'd up 12 trillion dollars of """free""" money last year to pay people not to work, fuel is up 50%, and there's some serious bottlenecks with freight, both LTL and container ships coming from the Far East.

With Sundown you are buying good customer support, warranty service, and a name that holds re-sale value though if you don't exceed manufacturer ratings you would be extremely hard pressed to break their woofers. I'd never pay MSRP for them, but then again I don't pay MSRP for anything.

 

[RBarlow]

I think everyone's prices on everything have gone up a lot. We magic'd up 12 trillion dollars of """free""" money last year to pay people not to work, fuel is up 50%, and there's some serious bottlenecks with freight, both LTL and container ships coming from the Far East.

With Sundown you are buying good customer support, warranty service, and a name that holds re-sale value though if you don't exceed manufacturer ratings you would be extremely hard pressed to break their woofers. I'd never pay MSRP for them, but then again I don't pay MSRP for anything.

at this point i may just buy off whoever has something in stock lol cause everyone im checking of course is out of 12 inch d2 and d4 i did find sd vs d4 for 3each but idk

 

[mastershake575]

Great product and the owner spends a good amount of time on R&D but the prices are off-putting.

I personally wouldn't pay borderline SQ prices for an SPL sub to be honest (that's kinda what it feels like to buy Sundown, your paying Audiofrog/Audio Dynamics level prices for a mass produced SPL sub).

 

[Jonnyswboy]

Just picked up two brand new Nightshades so god I hope so.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Sundown is one of the best car audio subwoofer companies in the market. If my word means anything, Sundown is in my TOP 5 performing and high quality category. Whenever somebody tells me they have Sundowns that they need a design for, I tell them to bring it on, I know it's going to be loud as hell.

I used to work with a Sundown dealer doing box stuff, did many many E, SA, and X and occasional Z box. We literally never had one sound bad.

I have some of the highest respect for Sundown, as a sub company. Sundown is a trend-setter company. Companies that are just losers that like to Chinese clone everything, they clone Sundown. A lot of Sundown imitators around (Skar, cough, cough).

I watched Sundown develop into what it is now, while designing for their woofers over the past 10+ years. Sundown deserves all the praise they get. Jacob earned it, he put in work. Sundown is legit, they seem to love what they do.

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

Remember when SAs were like $100 each? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Remember when SAs were like $100 each? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

I remember buying Z15s for $200

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

The price of everything keeps rising but if we dare pay people more to keep up with those rising cost then the retards lose their minds.

 

[RBarlow]

Well I pulled the trigger on the American bass xfl subs wanted to go sun down but couldn't find any 12s in stock anywhere except only when grosly over priced like 120 bucks more then everyone else asks per sub! I tried to purchase a cple different brands but same story so when I was actually able to get the 2 ohm dvc xfls I leaped, but I almost took the chance on the.seismic audio subs look to built tough I emailed them and they got right back to me I asked where man and what coil was made from cca or copper ans ans was China and copper they have 3incb coils ans cost about 150 piece super cheap I just couldn't find enough dirt on them ti take the risk.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The price of everything keeps rising but if we dare pay people more to keep up with those rising cost then the retards lose their minds.

Yeah, that's totally relevant to a subwoofers thread

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Well I pulled the trigger on the American bass xfl subs wanted to go sun down but couldn't find any 12s in stock anywhere except only when grosly over priced like 120 bucks more then everyone else asks per sub! I tried to purchase a cple different brands but same story so when I was actually able to get the 2 ohm dvc xfls I leaped, but I almost took the chance on the.seismic audio subs look to built tough I emailed them and they got right back to me I asked where man and what coil was made from cca or copper ans ans was China and copper they have 3incb coils ans cost about 150 piece super cheap I just couldn't find enough dirt on them ti take the risk.

I really like the XFL's. I've installed dozens of them, they just put in work.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The 1000w XFL's were actually more musical than subs like the HD back in the day. The XFL's have gone up in power handling, but I'm not sure how much of the design has truly changed from the original 1000w models.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

American Bass and SoundQubed have had suspiciously similar subs in the past, and I've noticed they've gotten away from the more super stiff and high Fs type woofer design, into more musical, slightly softer and lower Fs woofer designs. They seem to be getting out of the high 30's and into the 40's Fs and getting away from the 38-40 hz fart box type thinking and they're making their woofers play lower. The t/s have really changed for the better, IMO. I think you'll be happy.