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Assuming both are flat wound aluminum for better thermal capacity what are the advantages and disadvantages of each they seem to have similar power handling abilities
What would be the advantage of the 5 inch coil Morel uses in their subs? They don’t typically have high power handling. Would that give the Morel an SQ advantage?If you're gonna run 3000+ watts, I would either do a neo 3" or a 4" ferrite for sure.
If you're gonna run 2kw, you could do a lot of different 3" ferrite motor woofers. I still think at 2500w I would opt for a 4" coiled woofer for daily, personally.
That makes sense to me. I was wanting to run right at 3K. If I run a single 21 in 8.5 cubes it should be the 4-in coil but I'm thinking 215s with 3 inch neo coils sounds like the best option for me if it means better efficiency accuracy and heat dissipation.If you're gonna run 3000+ watts, I would either do a neo 3" or a 4" ferrite for sure.
If you're gonna run 2kw, you could do a lot of different 3" ferrite motor woofers. I still think at 2500w I would opt for a 4" coiled woofer for daily, personally.
I've seen those types of subs and wondered the same thing.What would be the advantage of the 5 inch coil Morel uses in their subs? They don’t typically have high power handling. Would that give the Morel an SQ advantage?
I'm just so tempted to run a single big 21 with a 4-in coil because I've always had multiple sub setups.I've had some monster 4" coil subs. I stick with 3" now... giggity.
I would imagine that is going to look more like a PA coil than the beefy stuff you'd find in DD 99XX, DC LV6, or various "team" woofers.5 inch coil Morel
Yeah I'm willing to spend a little more to save weight and have better efficiency that's exactly what I want.For the 21" neo sub you are looking at there isn't really much downside to going with a 4 inch coil. The motor force on a neo is usually pretty damn high and a shorter wind 4" coil will give you alot more efficiency than a taller 3" coil.
I'm probably a bit biased, but I've ran 2", 3", and 4" motors, 3" and 4" neo. For a low power daily, a 2 inch sub built on a TI frame will work wonders. Once you start getting into the 1k power range a 3" coil helps a ton with reliability. Getting closer to 2k and the 4" coil starts to make more and more sense.
I'm only throwing 1200w at my 4" coil neo right now. I know the coil can handle double that. Besides the bragging rights, the only real reasons to go Neo are weight savings and efficiency. Personally, I love efficiency.
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I know the 3-in 8 layer incriminator audio judge and Warden are pretty damn impressive as wellI would imagine that is going to look more like a PA coil than the beefy stuff you'd find in DD 99XX, DC LV6, or various "team" woofers.
As far as the information I have got from very reliable source and my own experience 3" 8 layer will hold more heat than 4" 4 layer but 4 layer may be more efficient all things equal because you start to need a very wide gap to fit those thick coils. I like TC 4hp variants, LV6 DC, and DD 99XX for 4" coil subs. The American Bass and Soundqubed 4" coil models are pretty solid if you're not into spending big.
If you're looking into Neo, check out Pierce Audio. They have neo lineup and I've had good luck with their parts in the past and their motors I've seen around performed quite well. I think they also make some huge cones.
Wow the pierce audio stuff looks goodI would imagine that is going to look more like a PA coil than the beefy stuff you'd find in DD 99XX, DC LV6, or various "team" woofers.
As far as the information I have got from very reliable source and my own experience 3" 8 layer will hold more heat than 4" 4 layer but 4 layer may be more efficient all things equal because you start to need a very wide gap to fit those thick coils. I like TC 4hp variants, LV6 DC, and DD 99XX for 4" coil subs. The American Bass and Soundqubed 4" coil models are pretty solid if you're not into spending big.
If you're looking into Neo, check out Pierce Audio. They have neo lineup and I've had good luck with their parts in the past and their motors I've seen around performed quite well. I think they also make some huge cones.