Adire audio xbl^2 worth it any experience with brahmas?

[Kybasshead75]

the evils wont be as loud as two brahmas. IMO. Zcon is nice but XBL^2 is superior sounding. I've owned the Zcons its good for an spl brand vs the rest of the cookie cutter stuff but the efficiency is so so. TC sounds 3hp and 4hp motors flat out destroy the Zcons on 2k rms vs the TCs bridged on a 4 channel amp is the level of efficiency of the motors we are talking about. You got off the shelf motor designs vs motor legends. There's no comparison the legendary motor structures got their name for a reason. They are just that much better. SSA subs are better SQ than other spl brands but no where near any kind of actual SQ. 4/10 at best

Thank you this is exactly what I was wanting to know so you think 2000 Watts on two 12-in brahmas would be louder than a single 15 getting 4K?
If those two brahmas are loud enough I would definitely lean toward that direction as I am an ex musician w a picky ear but still like loud too but probably not loud like some of you crazy veterans running 10K lol.
I know several years back people were raving about the xbl motors.
I could pony up and get two of the 1500 w Brahma X's hehe

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Thank you this is exactly what I was wanting to know so you think 2000 Watts on two 12-in brahmas would be louder than a single 15 getting 4K?
If those two brahmas are loud enough I would definitely lean toward that direction as I am an ex musician w a picky ear but still like loud too but probably not loud like some of you crazy veterans running 10K lol.
I know several years back people were raving about the xbl motors.
I could pony up and get two of the 1500 w Brahma X's hehe

it would be loud but you'd also need the enclosure on point. Make sure you have plenty of airspace and a **** ton of bracing along with knowing your vehicle's resonant frequency to find out the best tuning. A properly done trunk wall should hit mid 145s to 148s on 2k. I would suggest a removeable aeroport so you can tinker with the tuning, port area etc...

 

[MattinMO]

I have a brahma mkII 15 with current model recone and its probably my favorite sub I've owned aside from some soundsplinter and other tc sounds woofers. I highly recommend adire the new owner Andrew is great to deal with and they do 20-30% off specials all the time

 

[Kybasshead75]

it would be loud but you'd also need the enclosure on point. Make sure you have plenty of airspace and a **** ton of bracing along with knowing your vehicle's resonant frequency to find out the best tuning. A properly done trunk wall should hit mid 145s to 148s on 2k. I would suggest a removeable aeroport so you can tinker with the tuning, port area etc...

it would be loud but you'd also need the enclosure on point. Make sure you have plenty of airspace and a **** ton of bracing along with knowing your vehicle's resonant frequency to find out the best tuning. A properly done trunk wall should hit mid 145s to 148s on 2k. I would suggest a removeable aeroport so you can tinker with the tuning, port area etc...

I was just talking on another thread about how if I went ported I would definitely prefer aero ports because of their adjustability so you can test different tuning in the car without having to rebuild a box!

it would be loud but you'd also need the enclosure on point. Make sure you have plenty of airspace and a **** ton of bracing along with knowing your vehicle's resonant frequency to find out the best tuning. A properly done trunk wall should hit mid 145s to 148s on 2k. I would suggest a removeable aeroport so you can tinker with the tuning, port area etc...

I was just saying in another thread how much I prefer adjustable aeroport boxes if I go ported because you can play with tuning and area without having to build a new box it's great! 145 to 148 on 2K is great and would be loud enough for me. I'm sure that would be very impressive having sq as well. If it wasn't an extra 40 lb I would go on and run three 10-in brahmas.
Their site recommends 1.5 to 2.5 cubic feet for a 12, I usually prefer the sound of a well-dampened sub, but I don't want it choked so 2 to 2.25 cubes per sub would work well I believe.
I love working with wood and building boxes, and have seen how much good bracing helps the sound for sure.

it would be loud but you'd also need the enclosure on point. Make sure you have plenty of airspace and a **** ton of bracing along with knowing your vehicle's resonant frequency to find out the best tuning. A properly done trunk wall should hit mid 145s to 148s on 2k. I would suggest a removeable aeroport so you can tinker with the tuning, port area etc...

145 to 148 would be impressive for two 12s on music w sq I'm sure damn.
Manufacturers recommended 12 airspace is 1.5 to 2.5 cubes I usually prefer a well dampened subwoofer so I figure 2-2.25cubes per sub would work well for me and still give the subs room to breathe. I agree with an aeroport for going ported for sure, and I need to save space. I'm sure it will be enough in my Civic. The recommended tuning is 30 HZ which is lower than I usually go for as I like upper frequencies as well like bass drum for rock.
With that low of power requirements I could easily go with a 2 channel amp and separate boxes making it that much better braced and easier to fit in the trunk as well.
I'm about sold on these brahmas here

 

[Kybasshead75]

it would be loud but you'd also need the enclosure on point. Make sure you have plenty of airspace and a **** ton of bracing along with knowing your vehicle's resonant frequency to find out the best tuning. A properly done trunk wall should hit mid 145s to 148s on 2k. I would suggest a removeable aeroport so you can tinker with the tuning, port area etc...

Sorry about the double posting my phone crashed lmao

 

[Kybasshead75]

I have a brahma mkII 15 with current model recone and its probably my favorite sub I've owned aside from some soundsplinter and other tc sounds woofers. I highly recommend adire the new owner Andrew is great to deal with and they do 20-30% off specials all the time

Sounds good to me where did you buy the sub from if they had the 1500 watt Brahma x in a 12 I would get two of those! I've always heard about the brahmas but never heard one in person sounds to me like it's what I need I'm after the loudest sound quality sub I can find lol

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

The mkII were the old ones before they closed up shop. Go ahead and get them. I am very tempted to get one but haven’t tried my icon yet

 

[Kybasshead75]

The mkII were the old ones before they closed up shop. Go ahead and get them. I am very tempted to get one but haven’t tried my icon yet

I was thinking about an icon too nice subs

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

Honestly to me it sounds like the icon might be more up your alley than the Brahma.

 

[Kybasshead75]

Honestly to me it sounds like the icon might be more up your alley than the Brahma.

Yeah already was thinking about two icon 12s in an aeroport box on a Orion XTR 2500 heard alot about icons on music

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

fyi......SQ subs become pointless when all you hear is your car rattling apart

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I was just talking on another thread about how if I went ported I would definitely prefer aero ports because of their adjustability so you can test different tuning in the car without having to rebuild a box!

I was just saying in another thread how much I prefer adjustable aeroport boxes if I go ported because you can play with tuning and area without having to build a new box it's great! 145 to 148 on 2K is great and would be loud enough for me. I'm sure that would be very impressive having sq as well. If it wasn't an extra 40 lb I would go on and run three 10-in brahmas.
Their site recommends 1.5 to 2.5 cubic feet for a 12, I usually prefer the sound of a well-dampened sub, but I don't want it choked so 2 to 2.25 cubes per sub would work well I believe.
I love working with wood and building boxes, and have seen how much good bracing helps the sound for sure.

145 to 148 would be impressive for two 12s on music w sq I'm sure damn.
Manufacturers recommended 12 airspace is 1.5 to 2.5 cubes I usually prefer a well dampened subwoofer so I figure 2-2.25cubes per sub would work well for me and still give the subs room to breathe. I agree with an aeroport for going ported for sure, and I need to save space. I'm sure it will be enough in my Civic. The recommended tuning is 30 HZ which is lower than I usually go for as I like upper frequencies as well like bass drum for rock.
With that low of power requirements I could easily go with a 2 channel amp and separate boxes making it that much better braced and easier to fit in the trunk as well.
I'm about sold on these brahmas here

brahmas dont need a lot of airspace actually. Their requirements are pretty low.

 

[Kybasshead75]

brahmas dont need a lot of airspace actually. Their requirements are pretty low.

I was noticing that their lowest recommended airspace for a 12 is 1.5 cubes which would make me able to run three of them and I also prefer the sound of well dampened subs. I just rather not run 120 lb of subwoofers 80 is still a lot since I'm delivering in the vehicle.
I've been doing the math and it's looking like I could fit 215s in three cubes each if I build them in separate boxes I could get them in the trunk without having to build them in there and still have room for my batteries and amps

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

Never ran one but for what it's worth the people at the diymobileaudio forum (most of which are SQ snobs) all love the Brahma. Mutiple users have run both the Brahma and the JL W7 and liked the Brahma more which is impressive

I wouldn't stress too much about output, if you ran even a single 15 on true power with a custom box you'd rattle your entire car and completely drown out your front speakers.

The whole point of buying a nicer sub is that you don't have to buy a bunch of them to get anything substantial

 

[Kybasshead75]

Never ran one but for what it's worth the people at the diymobileaudio forum (most of which are SQ snobs) all love the Brahma. Mutiple users have run both the Brahma and the JL W7 and liked the Brahma more which is impressive

I wouldn't stress too much about output, if you ran even a single 15 on true power with a custom box you'd rattle your entire car and completely drown out your front speakers.

The whole point of buying a nicer sub is that you don't have to buy a bunch of them to get anything substantial

Wow that's a hell of a compliment and if it's output is close to a w7 and some prefer the Brahma then that definitely means I don't need to worry about it as this will be a daily listening stereo.

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

I would do 2 12’s and put them in a proper box. Adire recommends at least 1.75 ported and I’d probably do at least 2 cubes each. Sub displacement is .13 and if you build 2 boxes then you’re aero displacement will likely be .1ish each so you’d need 2.25 for each box.

 

[Kybasshead75]

I would do 2 12’s and put them in a proper box. Adire recommends at least 1.75 ported and I’d probably do at least 2 cubes each. Sub displacement is .13 and if you build 2 boxes then you’re aero displacement will likely be .1ish each so you’d need 2.25 for each box.

I came to the same conclusion after looking at the parameters and my available space I want to go well dampened but not choked off and 2- 2.25 cubes net per sub is the number I came up with also. It will easy to do and not push the very limits of my Max available airspace. the fact they're compared to the JL w7 is impressive indeed and I'm sure will be enough. I'm excited

 

[MattinMO]

I just picked up 2 more mkII brahmas for $300 in a prefab that imma sell for $40.

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

My area never has anything decent. It’s all kicker and junk. I’m super jealous

 

[Kybasshead75]

I just picked up 2 more mkII brahmas for $300 in a prefab that imma sell for $40.

Those look nice