wtf is pioneer thinking?

[Blasphemy 10+ year member]

Jenson>Eclipse>Alpine and Pioneer

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[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

ehhh i only buy alpine and kenwood headunits anyway...

x2

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

My list:

Alpine > Kenwood > Pioneer > Eclipse

Only reason, and I do mean only, eclipse is so far back is because I can never figure out their menu.

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

Pioneer 800prs > Alpine 9887 > Eclipse CD7100

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

My list:
Alpine > Kenwood > Pioneer > Eclipse

Only reason, and I do mean only, eclipse is so far back is because I can never figure out their menu.

I figured it out in about 2 minutes without the manual. You have an enter button, a return button, up and down and thats it.

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, it's not that hard to figure out. The big knob though really started to piss me off. I love how the 800prs was able to get into all the settings through the remote.

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

Actually it should be 800prs > Alpine 9887 = Eclipse CD7100 (the eclipse did sound really good and I liked the EQ).

 

[TeamRetribution 10+ year member]

I dont have any issues with my pioneer

 

[cam5860 10+ year member]

Alpine is in business to make money folks. You have to design what the majority of people want. That's simple features with iphone and ipod controls. There's not enough audiophiles left to support headuntis with a azz of tuning features anymore. Your average person don't know where to start on headunits like that.

 

[cam5860 10+ year member]

I agree the pioneer headunits look like sh!t this year. Which I have never cared for the sound quality of pioneer anyway. There amps **** azz too.

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

Alpine is in business to make money folks. You have to design what the majority of people want. That's simple features with iphone and ipod controls. There's not enough audiophiles left to support headuntis with a azz of tuning features anymore. Your average person don't know where to start on headunits like that.

That wouldnt be a problem so long as Alpine (or the other co.'s) sold the processing as a separate unit.

And I dont mean those crappy automatic Auddesy based EQ's either, since everyone who has used one complains there arent any user settings to adjust the sound once its been automatically adjusted.

Something like a PHX-H701, but less expensive and based on tech that isnt 8 years old.

 

[norrizzle90 10+ year member]

boss makes the sickest headunits out there....fuk whatcha hurd!!

 

[masterbarber 10+ year member]

totally agree the come from bad to worse..............less quality more $$$$$$$$$

 

[jake21 10+ year member]

The new alpine CDA-117 actually has some decent sound adjustments 7band eq graphic and parametric and also has time correction.

Its basically the CDA-9886 with ACTUAL sound adjustments rather than "bass and treble"

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

Jenson>Eclipse>Alpine and Pioneer

Kenwood>Jensen>Eclipse>Alpine and pioneer