Woman situation, what to do

I'm not completely pushing her out. I'm still giving her the choice - but just that, it's now her choice not mine.
If she wants to see me or talk to me, she'll call or make arrangements, if not then oh well it wasn't something I need to worry about.

It really does **** balls to be a dick though, I can genuinely say that I am quite possibly the nicest guy in this town, no lie, or at least when it comes to most things. It hurts for her to "need" me there, and to refuse to be there.
No I know what you mean. Mine tried to talk to me but I just kept it short and sweet. She finally texted me though one day and said, "please talk to me, please." so I responded. I know what you are saying dude it's just hard to be nice and mean at the same time. You don't want to be a complete d1ck but you don't want to be a pushover either.

And earlier someone asked how old I am - I'm 21. Yes I'm young. Yes, I'm probably stupid. But I at least attempt not to go about things the wrong way and keep my cool. I've dealt with this for a little over a week and it was just time to stop it somehow.
I'm 21 as well bout to be 22. It took me 2 weeks to be fine. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif As long as I was talking about it I was fine. When I was sitting around I was meh...lots of friends on here helped me out a lot.

 
I did. Last week. Some little prick that talked shit in the past, I let it go.
Get to a party, he was bein a little rough to some of the women there, and then tried to walk shoulder to shoulder with me, then preceded to talk shit.

One hitter quitter. I'll get a video next time so you people dont call me a liar ha.

I hate fighting too, I'm pretty much a ***** by most peoples terms. Only do what ya gotta do when the time comes, for me at least.

And yes, I know what I want. She's sitting at home very upset right now because of the conversation we just had. I chose to do it over the phone because if she were here and I said it, I wouldnt have broken down and given in.
good.

i think we are like twins dude.

Almost identical. Except I have lost some of my niceness. just gotta let the anger go

 
good.

i think we are like twins dude.

Almost identical. Except I have lost some of my niceness. just gotta let the anger go
I tried - I cant. I look at myself in a lesser manner if I'm a dick.

Seems that all of the good women go for pieces of shit and dickheads though, so maybe it's a trend I should consider more seriously

Bastards

 
Personally, I don't know enough about the situation to fix it. I don't even know if it's fixable at this point. It sounds like you're in the friend zone and nothing short of a miracle will get you out of the friend zone usually.

 
I tried - I cant. I look at myself in a lesser manner if I'm a dick.
Seems that all of the good women go for pieces of shit and dickheads though, so maybe it's a trend I should consider more seriously

Bastards
i'm not saying have to be a dick. Just don't be a pushover. Show some backbone you know.

I was a dick for awhile. Not fun. You have to find the middle ground.

I didn't like being called an ******* everyday at school.

 
girls go for guys who are d1cks. Women who want a serious relationship go for the nice guys. Trust me.........I've been the, "nice guy," all my life.
Girls don't like guys who are dicks. Girls like guys who are confident in themselves and everything they do. These people tend to be very successful in life. It just so happens that dicks portray this quality the most often.

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Personally, I don't know enough about the situation to fix it. I don't even know if it's fixable at this point. It sounds like you're in the friend zone and nothing short of a miracle will get you out of the friend zone usually.
Quite true.

It's funny too - you remember the chick that was your avatar that got you so much shit and started the fanclub?

This chick reminds me of her, a lot. A tad smaller tits, everything else is the same. ***** is nicer on this one though, I will say. She's got a cute punk thing goin, but she's prep. I dunno, anyways

Any solution you think is feasible throw it out there.

At this point it might be best to walk away and forget about her. I really, really, really regret saying these words already.

 
Girls don't like guys who are dicks. Girls like guys who are confident in themselves and everything they do. These people tend to be very successful in life. It just so happens that dicks portray this quality the most often.
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exactly the middle ground i meant.

 
Here's a good one.

So we talked about dinner one night. She's excited. I ask her where, she says wherever.

I decide on a semi-nice restaurant out of town, it's fun to go to and it's *relatively* expensive.

She says hey, I dunno that's expensive. I dont want to spend that much on dinner.

I told her it doesnt matter, it's my treat.

She gets defensive **** near, and REFUSES I repeat ABSOLUTELY REFUSES to allow me to pay for dinner.

I'm still a southern gentlemen, I cant have that.

I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T or what, shittin me

 
Quite true.
It's funny too - you remember the chick that was your avatar that got you so much shit and started the fanclub?

This chick reminds me of her, a lot. A tad smaller tits, everything else is the same. ***** is nicer on this one though, I will say. She's got a cute punk thing goin, but she's prep. I dunno, anyways

Any solution you think is feasible throw it out there.

At this point it might be best to walk away and forget about her. I really, really, really regret saying these words already.
So if you are stuck in friend zone, first things first, you need to stop beating around the bush. When you talk to her again, make it known you are interested in her, but not in a creepy way mind you. Ask her on a date...No...Tell her she is going on a date with you. Don't give her an option so to say. You see what I mean here, naturally if you are telling her she is going on a date with you, it makes you appear you have a ton of confidence in yourself. An example of this would be something like finding out a day she is free and then be like "I'm going to go see such and such movie and you should come with me. It'll be lots of fun!" You get the point.

 
Here's a good one.
So we talked about dinner one night. She's excited. I ask her where, she says wherever.

I decide on a semi-nice restaurant out of town, it's fun to go to and it's *relatively* expensive.

She says hey, I dunno that's expensive. I dont want to spend that much on dinner.

I told her it doesnt matter, it's my treat.

She gets defensive **** near, and REFUSES I repeat ABSOLUTELY REFUSES to allow me to pay for dinner.

I'm still a southern gentlemen, I cant have that.

I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T or what, shittin me
That's red flag for "FRIEND ZONE". You're screwed man. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 
So if you are stuck in friend zone, first things first, you need to stop beating around the bush. When you talk to her again, make it known you are interested in her, but not in a creepy way mind you. Ask her on a date...No...Tell her she is going on a date with you. Don't give her an option so to say. You see what I mean here, naturally if you are telling her she is going on a date with you, it makes you appear you have a ton of confidence in yourself. An example of this would be something like finding out a day she is free and then be like "I'm going to go see such and such movie and you should come with me. It'll be lots of fun!" You get the point.
No choices eh? So what if I'm, in fact, forcing her to go because she's feel obligated?

Also, that's a bit childish sounding isnt it? ha, oh well, when all else fails stick to the basics/principles.

And I'm kinda ****ed on that, in order to do this I would have to disregard my friend who is admittedly starting to feel something for the girl, so that sucks.

But **** that, if it's what has to happen, it's what has to happen.

What do you think about this. Give it a couple of weeks, maybe a month. Give her time, space, give her what she needs. See how much she calls, or how rarely I talk to her/see her, either one.

After a few weeks/a month, I then proceed to do this, giving her no option but to join me for the evening?

 
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