Wolfram audio

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

Id take a wolfram over the vfl comp 4k in a heartbeat.

 

[Jeffro83]

Id take a wolfram over the vfl comp 4k in a heartbeat.

Couldn't agree more. Vfl comp 4K is a 3.5k bored all day. Same as nendo 3.5 k and vfl 200.1 but I honestly have a feeling it's not going to be as good as either

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

Quite a few locals running various vfl comps.... im not overly impressed tbh

 

[Jeffro83]

At the time I bought them I was looking for something around 3.5k, and wanted Korean amps. I was told they were the same as the vfl 200.1. when I got them I opened them up and the boards look identical to me, but I really don't know s*** about amp guts ( especially the difference between good components and bad components ) except what I see in the pictures on the internet and what I've read, so I was happy, considering amps with similar boards were going for anywhere from 8 to 900 on the internet at the time, and I paid 750 each. but after seeing some fall short on the dyno and a few other fishy things, not sure that they will live up to the 200.1 Legacy.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Quite a few locals running various vfl comps.... im not overly impressed tbh

the VFLs **** now

 

[bigblank69 10+ year member]

For the earlier comment, both Skar and American Bass / VFL audio all use S&I for a buildhouse, not Zenon.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

The 3k is same board as c2 recon 2.6k.
The guy local to me with 4500 loves his. Has it on 2 mayhem 18s at 0.5, and for what its worth, has gotten more power out of the wolfram than his Addictive Fix 500.1, which are very hit and miss on quality

all of them that I encountered have been a complete miss, even the ones that was taken to zed's shop and fixed by zed audio himself.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

At the time I bought them I was looking for something around 3.5k, and wanted Korean amps. I was told they were the same as the vfl 200.1. when I got them I opened them up and the boards look identical to me, but I really don't know s*** about amp guts ( especially the difference between good components and bad components ) except what I see in the pictures on the internet and what I've read, so I was happy, considering amps with similar boards were going for anywhere from 8 to 900 on the internet at the time, and I paid 750 each. but after seeing some fall short on the dyno and a few other fishy things, not sure that they will live up to the 200.1 Legacy.

literally could have bought yourself a taramps bass 15k, vital power 700.1, or twisted sounds/synergy and got way more for your money.

I'm 100% all for boycotting american bass amps until they get their sh*t together, its been relatively trash tier amps for trash tier pricing.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

all of them that I encountered have been a complete miss, even the ones that was taken to zed's shop and fixed by zed audio himself.

The Fix was just a terrible design. Steve at amp medics was the authorized repair shop for them and told me they normally fail so catastrophically that the board can't even be saved.

I've sent known unreliable amps to Stephen Mantz and he will tell you that short of completely redesigning the whole thing it'll be a time bomb be matter what he does.

Fortunately Korea has made many of these big amps more reliable lately but IMO they're still a gamble along with the full bridge stuff from Brazil.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

They dont call them "the fix" for nothing. I think everyone ive seen has been blown at 1 point

 

[Jeffro83]

literally could have bought yourself a taramps bass 15k, vital power 700.1, or twisted sounds/synergy and got way more for your money.
I'm 100% all for boycotting american bass amps until they get their sh*t together, its been relatively trash tier amps for trash tier pricing.

I agree completely, I doubt you remember but these amps are the cause of the buyer's remorse that I was speaking of in the other threads, where you were helping me with my front stage. when I bought them I didn't know about the vital power, but was really wanting twisted or Synergy amps. was just too scared to order something that big at the time, but that's definitely changed now, and I wish I could get a redo but I can't. so I'm going to run them till I can either sell them and get something different, or I blow them and get something different. But yeah f*** American bass, and vfl audio amps until they get their s*** together, I won't buy another one. every amp in the vfl line looks like a well-built Korean, but are all overrated from what I've read, which is just retarded b******* and I don't have time for that.

 

[Jeffro83]

For the earlier comment, both Skar and American Bass / VFL audio all use S&I for a buildhouse, not Zenon.

What's up man love the videos, you obviously know a thing or two about amps, so this is a legit question not a smart-*** comment, hope you don't take it that way. but I don't see where I said anything that was wrong in any of my post all I said was that the Wolfram 3000.1 doesn't use a twisted sounds board, and that it looks similar to a skar 3500, but is definitely different. didn't get in to build houses because I was only trying to prevent people from saying all Wolfram amps use Twisted boards because I don't believe that they do. apparently some people disagree with that, so maybe you can fill me in on where I went wrong? I don't want to be the one spreading misinformation.

 

[bigblank69 10+ year member]

What's up man love the videos, you obviously know a thing or two about amps, so this is a legit question not a smart-*** comment, hope you don't take it that way. but I don't see where I said anything that was wrong in any of my post all I said was that the Wolfram 3000.1 doesn't use a twisted sounds board, and that it looks similar to a skar 3500, but is definitely different. didn't get in to build houses because I was only trying to prevent people from saying all Wolfram amps use Twisted boards because I don't believe that they do. apparently some people disagree with that, so maybe you can fill me in on where I went wrong? I don't want to be the one spreading misinformation.

I didn't see anything horribly wrong with your post. When you get to circuit boards especially Korean 3K and above amps, a lot of them are going to have a lot of similarity, but it doesn't mean they are the same design, build quality, output, or build house. S&I is a good buildhouse, so is Zenon. Both Twisted Sounds and Wolfram use Zenon boards, however that doesn't mean that each Wolfram amp has a Twisted Sounds counterpart and vice versa.

 

[Jeffro83]

I didn't see anything horribly wrong with your post. When you get to circuit boards especially Korean 3K and above amps, a lot of them are going to have a lot of similarity, but it doesn't mean they are the same design, build quality, output, or build house. S&I is a good buildhouse, so is Zenon. Both Twisted Sounds and Wolfram use Zenon boards, however that doesn't mean that each Wolfram amp has a Twisted Sounds counterpart and vice versa.

Thanks bro, well said, that is all I was trying to say, probably made a little confusion with the extra ranting. it's just when people bring up the Wolfram 3000.1 others automatically say Wolfram amps have the same boards as Twisted amps, and that is not true, entirely at least anyway. it's not really a big deal but there is a difference a big difference in the Wolfram 3000.1 and the Twisted 2.8 k, and people who are thinking about buying one of these two amps should know the difference, in my opinion. however with that said they are both top-notch in my eyes and and put out close to similar power. I would gladly run either one over my vfl comp 4k's just because they are both honestly rated or underrated, and a way better value for the money.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

The 3k shares a board with the c2 recon... not TS

 

[Bomber Z 10+ year member]

The amps can use the same boards but it's the pats combination and quality that makes the difference. Think of a small block Chevy. The block is the same but it's the parts combination that makes the Horsepower and torque rating difference.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

all overrated from what I've read, which is just retarded b******* and I don't have time for that.

Consumers keep buying from dishonest brands who lie about power ratings. It's just good business sense to use that form of marketing at this point.