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to add to my previous point, it's just as bad to film what you want, then edit that film how you want in order to discredit in a partisan fashion, as it is to photoshop someone ugly for the same reason.

 
we are comparing news right? you aren't trying to say glenn beck in any way purports to be news are you? commentary, news, and commentary hidden as news are 3 different forums.
i would say fox falls into the last category and most viewers believe they are informed when they watch "the news"

 
to add to my previous point, it's just as bad to film what you want, then edit that film how you want in order to discredit in a partisan fashion, as it is to photoshop someone ugly for the same reason.
fox does both.

Even if i was to concede to your argument, the others only do one.

 
I may also point out if the laws for minorities were switched to "white" laws the ENTIRE left would be crying racism...Until you stop seeing PEOPLE as a color there will be racism and I will give you a prime example of how the left works. If you do not see the problem in this videoyou really have no clue of what racism actually is.


 
lol.


he probably still doesnt get it.

Most people arent competing with Juan for jobs. Therefore most people will get a net gain from Juan.
juan destroyed the drywall industry i used to work in. in 1993, i used to get piece work, meaning i get paid a dollar amount per sheet of drywall i would hang, or finish, or texture. the industry is kinda split like that. i got 5$ per sheet in 1993 when i first started. 3 years later i was good enough to hang 7-10 sheets per hour which was good money for me. back breaking hard work, but it was worth it. the larger companies drove the piece work down the toiliets by hiring mexicans at 9-10$ and hour. there is essentially no such thing as piece work in colorado anymore. it's now an hourly wage, and a low one state wide. nobody except a desperate poor mexican immigrant will even hang drywall anymore.

 
Native Americans 'immigrated' from Asia across a landbridge or icecap.
They're immigrants, too... **** 'em.
you are right I didn't go backk far enuf to put that in. For that i'm sorry:rolleyes:. I do like fox news and untill another news channel does something to have me wach them I won't.

 
I may also point out if the laws for minorities were switched to "white" laws the ENTIRE left would be crying racism...Until you stop seeing PEOPLE as a color there will be racism and I will give you a prime example of how the left works. If you do not see the problem in this videoyou really have no clue of what racism actually is.

i can only imagine what America would be like if people as smart as you ran everything.

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I didnt claim this.
I just said Fox was the most effective. THey do it the best. They are very successful.. more so than the others. Thats all i said.

I used your word, sensationalized, as a substitute for covered, and so yes, Fox news is included.
If you mean they have used the same tactics as CNN etc, but become more popular, we agree. But its not that they do it 'better' necessarily, its that they are seen as the only major outlet for conservative viewers. The amazingly liberal biased press created the void that Fox filled. Rupert Murdoch did not make Fox News so popular, the liberal media which hates FNC is what made FNC so popular. I believe you are trying to portray FNC as more devious than the liberial biased stations/programs. If Im interpretting your words incorrectly, I apologize, but I dont think Im coming from left field here. *shrug*
His ability to still run is a fact. I dont think anyone is claiming this isnt true.
My claim that he has lost his base was an opinion formed by examining the issues which appear to matter to his base. Namely family values and monogamy/fidelity. If my opinion is wrong it will be shown by his forthcoming victory.

The issues that matter to both parties base are different. Clinton's didnt care about a BJ and i posit that Sanford's does.
Sure, he's 'able' to run for anything. But after the mostly liberal press has presented a case of him being 'unelectable' it simply makes his chances of winning that much smaller. I think we all agree that the press, on both sides, sways political winds by presenting some people in a certain light, while others in an entirely different light. I remember CNN walking the streets taking polls of if people thought Clinton was no longer 'fit' to be president because of Monica Lewinski. The simple act of asking 'can Clinton still be a viable president after the Lewinski situation' presents the situation in a regard of 'can he still be president after a scandal that doesn't involve him governing the country', which or course loads the question to get expected answers. Where is CNN now with their polls of 'can Sanford still be an effective president after having been found to be in a extra marital relationship which does not affect his ability to govern'...? Again, a bias can be easily shown by what the news DOESNT report, not just what it DOES report.

This has been fun, you present a respectable case Faulk. One I dont agree with for the most part, but a respectable case one-the-less. But my time for this has run out.

Cheers.

 
fox does both.
Even if i was to concede to your argument, the others only do one.
you have not personally compared the 2. i'm confident that you are probably smarter than most on this forum, and if you actually looked at it with any kind of intellectual honesty, you'd find that they are all on an equal level of BS, and in the case of NBC by itself, it's news is pathetic and a big step down from everybody else, at least in terms of news coverage. for you to put fox on a pedestal of being "worse" than the news delivered by people with your same political idealogy is an obvious way to discredit fox more than the others, whom you happen to agree with. that is very convenient and seems like intellectual dishonesty to me. either that or you have just never actually done the comparison yourself, but rather trusted other left wing commentators to supply that information for you. you do not seem like an intellectually lazy person in the least.

 
mine too.. i might destroy your last post when i get home.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

but the three of us all made some interesting posts.

 
My only argument was that i would work within the confines of his own logic to discredit his argument.
construe that any way you like.

:')
You want your cake and eat it too. You surmise that the logic is flawed and invalid, yet still use it to bolster your own stance. Either way, this reply does not really address the topic at hand.
 
And I might show how your personal bias has clouded your thinking into believing you could, did or shall destroy my reply. Time will tell. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 
you are right I didn't go backk far enuf to put that in. For that i'm sorry:rolleyes:. I do like fox news and untill another news channel does something to have me wach them I won't.
you need to watch the other side. it helps you guage and curtail some of your own biases by watching someone elses. and if you're a real partisan, you'd at least watch them to "spy" on the enemy. either way, you are depriving yourself of knowledge, then spouting off opinions.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 
i can only imagine what America would be like if people as smart as you ran everything.
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You do not deal with "races" and groups, you deal with people and FACTS; the way you treat people is not racial and your facts do not change between people. If you want to judge people who grandstand about racism what do you call Al Sharpton or even that Gates clown from Harvard?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif They both said A LOT worse things than Beck has and IF you would like me to I can pull actual quotes. In fact I can pull up video of riots Al Sharpton was leading.

 
You do not deal with "races" and groups, you deal with people and FACTS; the way you treat people is not racial and your facts do not change between people. If you want to judge people who grandstand about racism what do you call Al Sharpton or even that Gates clown from Harvard?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif They both said A LOT worse things than Beck has and IF you would like me to I can pull actual quotes. In fact I can pull up video of riots Al Sharpton was leading.
the 2 largest hate groups in america are democrats and republicans. one doesn't even need a reason to hate the other.

 
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