why that was nice

[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

thats what being a good christian is all about //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

it's true.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I keep up to date on the world b/c of Faulkton's news reports...

Good stuff...

nG

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

i dont even understand how this happened?

Someone calls in tells them to go to the managers office then starts telling them to strip and **** the managers? What normal person would think this was o.k.? Theres got to be more to the story.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Lawmakers in two California cities are discussing unprecedented legislation this month that would widen a growing voluntary movement by landlords and resident associations to ban smoking inside apartments and condos.

Next Tuesday, the City Council of Belmont is scheduled to cast a final vote on an ordinance that would ban smoking in apartments and condos. The measure, which won initial approval last week, could trigger fines and evictions if neighbors complain and smokers don't heed repeated warnings

In Calabasas on Wednesday, the City Council discussed a proposal that would expand its anti-smoking law to bar lighting up inside existing apartments and most new condos. The council agreed to request changes to the measure that would exempt all condos and set aside a certain percentage of apartments for smokers, says city spokesman Michael Hafken. It is slated to consider the revised proposal next month.

The legislative push, which has triggered death threats against council members in both cities, is a controversial part of a mostly voluntary effort to prod landlords and condo associations to adopt smoke-free policies.

Health officials in about 30 states promote the health and economic benefits, including reduced fire risk and lower cleanup costs for multiunit housing, says Jim Bergman, director of the Smoke-Free Environments Law Project, a Michigan group funded partly by the state.

Tens of thousands of apartments and condos have gone smoke-free in the past five years, management companies and health activists say. Last month, Guardian Management began phasing in a smoke-free policy at 8,000 of its rental units, mostly in Oregon and Washington.

"We've proven the voluntary approach can work very well," Bergman says. He doesn't think legislative bans will work because of a "my home is my castle" philosophy.

"The time has come. The evils of smoking have been known for decades," says Barry Groveman, a Calabasas councilman who co-wrote the proposal.

Still, he knows he's struck a nerve. "I've gotten threats like you wouldn't believe," Groveman says.

"Fresh air should be breathed by everybody," Belmont Mayor Coralin Feierbach says. She cites a 2006 surgeon general's report that says no level of secondhand smoke is risk-free.

Critics say the bans violate civil and personal property rights. "You should be able to do as you wish in your own home," says Michon Coleman of the San Mateo County Association of Realtors.

Belmont's ordinance is "way over the top," because a smoker can be evicted simply for lighting up, says Warren Lieberman, one of two council members who oppose it.

Such criticism prompted Oakland last month to remove a ban on smoking in new apartments and condos from an ordinance that barred lighting up in public places.

Feierbach says she never intended to create a stir, but she expects other cities to follow Belmont. "We really broke ground," she says.

They should make it a crime to even think about smoking in an apartment.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-10-03-smoking-bans_N.htm?csp=34

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

i dont even understand how this happened?
Someone calls in tells them to go to the managers office then starts telling them to strip and **** the managers? What normal person would think this was o.k.? Theres got to be more to the story.

according to the second article i quoted.. 70 businesses fell for it over several years before they arrested the guy making the calls.

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

Fourteen Defining

Characteristics Of Fascism

By Dr. Lawrence Britt

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

according to the second article i quoted.. 70 businesses fell for it over several years before they arrested the guy making the calls.

Can you give me a step by step of this hoax? I think there is something I am missing.

Label the people also. Person A) is caller B) C) D) .....

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

this is really just a weapon of oppression designed to drive undesirables (minorities and the poor) out of the city.

They might as well just ban the indoor consumption of malt liquor and chicken; it would have the same effect.

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

at least the dude smoked in 1984

 

[angrytrucker78 10+ year member]

I think people have the right to smoke in their homes, but if it interferes with others comfort and health, then the landlords have to do what they have to do. If I paid good money to live in a nice apartment and the smoker downstairs or down the hall stunk it up with cigarettes, I'd be pissed off too.

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

I hate some perfumes.

They can make my eyes water, and my sinuses ache.

I want all perfumes banned from any place Im living.

Oh, and you fatties better watch out, you're next.

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

this is really just a weapon of oppression designed to drive undesirables (minorities and the poor) out of the city.
They might as well just ban the indoor consumption of malt liquor and chicken; it would have the same effect.

i loled.

what about state subsidized dwellings/watermelon farms?

 

[angrytrucker78 10+ year member]

Show me studies proving second hand perfume smelling causes or leads to cancer and I'll accept that argument.