why that was nice

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

Maybe parts of the Taurus were made in Mexico, but I know for a fact the final assembly is in Illinois. I lived right by the **** plant.

I still live by the ford plant(s).

Not sure what they are producing now, but I know that LOTS of people have been getting laid off.

 

[CaliforniabOY5 10+ year member]

fegs... my next SHOULD be euro.... Audi/BMW/Mercedes Benz....

 

[kickerfan07 10+ year member]

In the second quarter of this year both ford and chevy turned in nice profits. I have owned a couple of Fords, and Acura and a Mitsubishi. In my opinion and experience the asian cars used to be more reliable because of the simplicity of the design, and smaller scale production, but now they are getting more complicated and putting out more cars so they will be having more problems as well. I have owned a couple of Fords and they were both very reliable. Also i beleive Ford had the most JD Power awards for Initial Quality for this year. I wouldnt beleive all the auto propoganda about how foreign cars are so much better.

From Yahoo News Wed Aug 1, 12:59 PM ET

"GM on Tuesday reported that its quarterly results had improved by more than 4.2 billion dollars to an 891 million dollar gain."

"Ford -- which lost 12.4 billion last year -- posted a 750 million dollar gain last week, a more than one billion dollar improvement on the second quarter of 2006."

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

I still live by the ford plant(s).
Not sure what they are producing now, but I know that LOTS of people have been getting laid off.

Chicago heights plant is a stamping facility, mainly for the final assembly of the 500/taurus in the hegwisch plant.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

In the second quarter of this year both ford and chevy turned in nice profits. I have owned a couple of Fords, and Acura and a Mitsubishi. In my opinion and experience the asian cars used to be more reliable because of the simplicity of the design, and smaller scale production, but now they are getting more complicated and putting out more cars so they will be having more problems as well. I have owned a couple of Fords and they were both very reliable. Also i beleive Ford had the most JD Power awards for Initial Quality for this year. I wouldnt beleive all the auto propoganda about how foreign cars are so much better.

From Yahoo News Wed Aug 1, 12:59 PM ET

"GM on Tuesday reported that its quarterly results had improved by more than 4.2 billion dollars to an 891 million dollar gain."

"Ford -- which lost 12.4 billion last year -- posted a 750 million dollar gain last week, a more than one billion dollar improvement on the second quarter of 2006."

I am no mechanic, but I find GM to be the plainest laid out engine bay. I can find everything quickly....some of the the things are somewhat difficult, such as spark plugs on 3.8s

 

[AcidicDreams 10+ year member]

this country is really on a nice spiral to not having any money whatsoever.

What the hell are you talking about????

and for what it's worth the unions are strangling the big 3... if they could shed some workers/ lower wages a bit then they could make profit again... it's part of the problem with unions... when times are good and the company is fat with cash they will negotiate ridiculous contracts, then when times are bad they refuse to make any concessions... that cycle has put many an airline out of business....

Of course it would help if the big 3 made cars that American's want to buy, but they are getting steadily better over the last 10 years....

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

Chicago heights plant is a stamping facility, mainly for the final assembly of the 500/taurus in the hegwisch plant.

Alrighty then! I knew I lived by something. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Alrighty then! I knew I lived by something. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I have a brother in law working at that plant. I have an ex-girlfriend working in the hegwisch plant. Thats why I know what they do.

Oh and BTW, get out of the ghetto already //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

I have a brother in law working at that plant.
Oh and BTW, get out of the ghetto already //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

Haha. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I live NEAR it, not right next to it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Ghetto=ford heights.

I live right on the border of chicago heights and flossmoor. So my area=not ghetto (yet).

 

[Ruthless Pastor 10+ year member]

"If a deal cannot be reached, Ford and GM negotiators have said the companies will have no choice but to move their North American operations to countries in Latin America and Asia where manufacturing costs are cheaper."

Purely a negotiation ploy. Let the unions call their bluff on this one. If Ford/GM think that their sales are bad now, wait until they move all of their manufacturing out of this country. They do not have a solid customer base set up anywhere else in the world. The only thing global about these manufacturers is the knowledge of the consumers who buy their cars, they being Americans. We have infinitely more choices now and are smarter with our purchases.

I agree that quality has improved, but the aesthetics are far, far behind. I started buying foreign 10 years ago when I decided it was time to feed my need to drive a car, as opposed to just getting from one place to the other. Now that performance has somewhat caught up it's time for innovation. Nice job getting ahead of the MPG curve too! It will be a decade before Ford/GM even have a prayer of getting market share back, if they're still in business; the only way to stay in business is the keep manufacturing domestic to appeal to their customer base. Without that ---------> Chapter 7.

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

"If a deal cannot be reached, Ford and GM negotiators have said the companies will have no choice but to move their North American operations to countries in Latin America and Asia where manufacturing costs are cheaper."
Purely a negotiation ploy. Let the unions call their bluff on this one. If Ford/GM think that their sales are bad now, wait until they move all of their manufacturing out of this country. They do not have a solid customer base set up anywhere else in the world. The only thing global about these manufacturers is the knowledge of the consumers who buy their cars, they being Americans. We have infinitely more choices now and are smarter with our purchases.

I agree that quality has improved, but the aesthetics are far, far behind. I started buying foreign 10 years ago when I decided it was time to feed my need to drive a car, as opposed to just getting from one place to the other. Now that performance has somewhat caught up it's time for innovation. Nice job getting ahead of the MPG curve too! It will be a decade before Ford/GM even have a prayer of getting market share back, if they're still in business; the only way to stay in business is the keep manufacturing domestic to appeal to their customer base. Without that ---------> Chapter 7.

If the union does call their bluff, and GM and ford do go bankrupt, wouldn't that be worse than taking a pay cut seeing as they would all be unemployed?

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

anyone who buys a jap car is a traitor.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

So if they send all the work to other countries and pay $5 an hour in labor, does the price of the car go down? I guarantee they won't lower the price. Half the plants in Detroit have been closed, the ones that are still open have cut back, so this really is old news.

 

[Silverbane 10+ year member]

shut up you domestic fanboy.
everyone knows toyotas and hondas are just better made cars.

Anything made here is junk.

Are you gonna dismiss the problems Honda is having with their auto transmissions not working too?

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Are you gonna dismiss the problems Honda is having with their auto transmissions not working too?

You are just making shit up.

Hondas dont ever break down.