why that was nice

[richierich75 10+ year member]

Your inability to come to terms with your own failure here is laughable. Once again. My point has been throughout that there is not sole responsibility on the president for the current circumstances of our country. If you can't see that then you fail harder than I originally thought.
Its apparant in your state of denial that you will not reread the thread, so what can I do but repaste some of it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I will give you an A for effort and tenacity though.

Your inability to realize that as with any form of leadership (take for example a CEO that records the largest profits in company history, he receives the accolades and if the company fails he is the one who gets fired - it ALL is ultimately under his control) so, they receive the credit for the positives and they also receive credit for the negatives. You cannot allow them to only be held accountable for the positives and not accountable for the negatives. As I mentioned before, everyone was all over his nuts when home ownership appeard to be the highest its every been only to have the current situation more of a reality and now you and everyone else want to pass the blame on to someone else. It's time he takes responsibility for his and his subordinate's failures throughout these last 8 years. This presidency will not doubt go down in history as the worst in US History.

However, when the shit hits the fan, Bush and Cheney will find a scape goat and weasel their way out of it...ie Scooter Libby - whose actions were no less than treason and punishable to the utmost, but somehow manage to get pardoned and people like you see no problem with the abuse of power by this administration.

Now I know what your next comment will be.....well Clinton did this and he did that - we are not talking about what Clinton did - we are talking about the failures of this administration and their blaiton disregard to the Consitution when and where they see fit.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Your inability to realize that as with any form of leadership (take for example a CEO that records the largest profits in company history, he receives the accolades and if the company fails he is the one who gets fired - it ALL is ultimately under his control) so, they receive the credit for the positives and they also receive credit for the negatives. You cannot allow them to only be held accountable for the positives and not accountable for the negatives. As I mentioned before, everyone was all over his nuts when home ownership appeard to be the highest its every been only to have the current situation more of a reality and now you and everyone else want to pass the blame on to someone else. It's time he takes responsibility for his and his subordinate's failures throughout these last 8 years. This presidency will not doubt go down in history as the worst in US History.

I would agree with you if you exchanged the word control for responsibility. While he may be responsible for the actions of subordinates, he definitely does not have the means to control them.

As for the falling dollar and oil prices.

It can be saved by adjusting the short term interest rate target. It is not all that wise to do that during a recession. The dollar is supposed to fall at times...as that is how business cycles works. I think what most people don't get is that many of us come to intellectual age during a high point of the business cycle. Furthermore, the President does not have control, well limited control in that he reccomends a guy to be chairman, over the actions of the Federal Reserve and the conduct of monetary policy. The price of oil is filled with speculation, no doubt about it. Again, that is outside the control (and in my opion the responsibility) of the office of President. I guess Congress could make a law forbidding the investment in oil futures (but then they would also have to limit total return swaps and a variety of other financial derivatives too complex for this discussion). While policies and programs could have reduced this strain, I am not sure it is his responsibility to control the market. Actually, I would prefer a President whose goals was to limit their influence to the market either way.

 

[richierich75 10+ year member]

I would agree with you if you exchanged the word control for responsibility. While he may be responsible for the actions of subordinates, he definitely does not have the means to control them.

As for the falling dollar and oil prices.

It can be saved by adjusting the short term interest rate target. It is not all that wise to do that during a recession. The dollar is supposed to fall at times...as that is how business cycles works. I think what most people don't get is that many of us come to intellectual age during a high point of the business cycle. Furthermore, the President does not have control, well limited control in that he reccomends a guy to be chairman, over the actions of the Federal Reserve and the conduct of monetary policy. The price of oil is filled with speculation, no doubt about it. Again, that is outside the control (and in my opion the responsibility) of the office of President. I guess Congress could make a law forbidding the investment in oil futures (but then they would also have to limit total return swaps and a variety of other financial derivatives too complex for this discussion). While policies and programs could have reduced this strain, I am not sure it is his responsibility to control the market. Actually, I would prefer a President whose goals was to limit their influence to the market either way.

Yes, responsibility is the correct word.

While I would agree with what you wrote, this administration has shown time and time again that it will do whatever is necessary to carry out its own agenda; ie unjustifiable firing of the justices only to fill the seats with its own far right wing constituents that ultimately carry out the recommendations and directives from the top down. While it would be nice to think that upper administration does have limited control over federal, state and monetary policy - it is however nieve to do so, especially with their proven track record to the contrary.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

The federal reserve is run by banks. Not to say there are not spheres of influence.

However, they cannot fire members of the Federal Reserve because they are not on the government's payroll.

 

[w00tah 10+ year member]

Yes, responsibility is the correct word.
While I would agree with what you wrote, this administration has shown time and time again that it will do whatever is necessary to carry out its own agenda; ie unjustifiable firing of the justices only to fill the seats with its own far right wing constituents that ultimately carry out the recommendations and directives from the top down. While it would be nice to think that upper administration does have limited control over federal, state and monetary policy - it is however nieve to do so, especially with their proven track record to the contrary.

Just to throw my 2 cents in, it's naïve.

Kef

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Your inability to realize that as with any form of leadership (take for example a CEO that records the largest profits in company history, he receives the accolades and if the company fails he is the one who gets fired - it ALL is ultimately under his control) so, they receive the credit for the positives and they also receive credit for the negatives. You cannot allow them to only be held accountable for the positives and not accountable for the negatives.

In your example, not saying the CEO can't be held accountable for the negatives, just saying that doesn't escape employee's below him from their responsibility either. Employees below can run under bad leadership yet still decide to try to make things better....or worse.

 

[Decado2 10+ year member]

Um, WTF is a "Darky"?

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Um, WTF is a "Darky"?

I think it may be a reference to race. Not sure though.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

I love the vest.

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

What part of Korea?

Just a bit of a warning, if you get in serious medical situations, have them fly you out!

The VP here just got back from a trip last year to Kyungki-Do and one of the guys had a heart attack while he was there. The hospital was so over crowded that the guy's "room" was a gurney in the middle of a hallway.

I like the outfit though. If anyone asks, tell them in broken Korean that your looking for Charlie.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

******* vest.

 

[wu501 10+ year member]

go for it...that shit is perfect for you

 

[SethPhillips 5,000+ posts]

i think that will do ya good... but i say more pocket's.. and you got a good idea with the vest and back pack.. that way no one can grab shit off of you or pick pocket you...

but yes it's functionall as far as touring the country. fishing, or looking simply gooolish..