Why Dont People Use Rear Fill?

[godzukiduce 10+ year member]

yea so i plan on getting some components for up front and i am debating if i should get some coaxils for the rear.

Do you really need rear fill?

Are They just a waste of money?

what are some advantages and disadvantges?

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[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

1. If you're in a trunk, they'll distort very bad.

2. Do you ever sit in tha back? No, what do you care what it sounds like back there.

3. They're in your face, backing my #2 opinion.

4. It's just better, IMO.

Also:

5. If you're loud enough, your shit is gonna distort REGARDLESS of where your speakers are placed, just a heads up.

 

[MBrock4u 10+ year member]

Once again its rear fill time, lol. First of all, there is nothing wrong with rear fill. Alot of people on here don't care for it. I use it for a couple of reasons. 1 It can enhance your front stage IF you adjust it properly. 2. In my situation, I have passengers, and they really apreciate the fact that I have it, instead of just a sub stage. It is not the boogie man some people claim that it is. Just keep in mind, have a strong solid front stage and don't spend much money of rears. Rear fill is not necessary, but if uses properly is a nice thing to have. You be the judge and listen for yourself.

 

[chucku 10+ year member]

I would have to agree with the above statement. Dont let your rear fill take away from your budget for front stage. I have rear fill but, there the same speakers as the front stage, I just fade the rears so they dont distract me. Loud *** cheap rear fill will probabily not help your system much.

 

[TheBaron929 10+ year member]

i have tried both at seperate times. and i enjoy having a rearfill much more than not having one. i think it fills out the sound more, gives more depth to the music.

but its all opinion i guess

 

[oxsign 5,000+ posts]

1. If you're in a trunk, they'll distort very bad.2. Do you ever sit in tha back? No, what do you care what it sounds like back there.

3. They're in your face, backing my #2 opinion.

4. It's just better, IMO.

Also:

5. If you're loud enough, your shit is gonna distort REGARDLESS of where your speakers are placed, just a heads up.

None of this really answered any of his questions. These are just your opinions as to why not to have rear fill. That's not a bad things, just not the facts.
Going with what "MBrock4u" had to say, I'd have to agree with his statement. I also have rear fills in my blazer, and I also think that if set properly, it can enhance your front stage. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fro.gif.c695f1f814b01c4ad99fe7f8cccadd29.gif

 

[audiobahnuser18 5,000+ posts]

I also agree rear fill does give actual music and not just bass notes more depth to the sound if you set it right.

 

[skmfkr 5,000+ posts]

strong front stage > medium front and rear

altho i do drive a reg cab truck and the rear 5.25s are absolutely pointless since my box pretty much covers them up

but yeah like its been said many times music is supposed to sound it like its coming from infront of you not behind

 

[Ku-sama]

I hear my 4x10's perfectly fine?

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

its all prefference. you want speakers in the rear. go for it.

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

1. If you're in a trunk, they'll distort very bad.2. Do you ever sit in tha back? No, what do you care what it sounds like back there.

3. They're in your face, backing my #2 opinion.

4. It's just better, IMO.

Also:

5. If you're loud enough, your shit is gonna distort REGARDLESS of where your speakers are placed, just a heads up.

1: you are a dumb ***

2: see number 1

 

[Ku-sama]

I have my rear set on higns... my 6.5's handle the mids and I listen to alot of metallica so I like my highs to be nice and clean

 

[godzukiduce 10+ year member]

thanks for the input guys ill most likely get some rear speakers.

 

[BlackMaxima 10+ year member]

this is my opinion.

work on the front stage. get some high quality speakers up front.

if you want a rearfill just get some maybe $50 speakers and power it up with the H/U no amp for the rear speakers.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

To properly implement rear fill an not have it detract from the overall quality of the system, there are several areas that have t obe considered and addressed.

1) You have to account for the phase relation in the higher freqs. Failure to do so will create a bunch of peaks and valleys in the freq response. Time alignment can account for some of this. Another way to take care of this on the higher freqs where is has the largest effects is to limit the pass band of the rear speakers to midrange only.

2) You have to decide if you want fill or just rear speakers. If you want fill, you will need an amp to be able to control the volume (you want them really quiet) and the passband (200-6khZ). If you want rear speakers to "surround you in sound" be prepared to accept the consequences in the realms of imaging, staging and frequency response.

3) Music is recorded and mixed in stereo 99% of the time. Simply adding a second pair of speakers does not make it surround sound. Adding rear speakers, even when delayed and attenuated, doesn't create "ambiance" or help the feel of the music. All the "room cues" (echos, etc...) are contained on the original recording and can be fully reproduced by the front speakers. In fact that is how they were intended to be reproduced: 2 speakers in front of the listener. Unless you can separate the ambiance sounds from the recording (you can't), adding rear speakers with a delay will not accurately recreate the room but merely make it sound like you're listening to the recording in a larger room than your car. If that's what you want, go for it, but it isn't accurate reproduction.

IMO, unless you have implemented a full 5.1 system in the car and have a source unit capable of decoding 5.1 material and delivering it to the right place, rear speakers and center channels have no place in a system. That's just my opinion, your system, do what you want.