Which sub set up should I go with???

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Ok, I have a DB drive pt2000.1d amp which was clamped at:

Clamped at using 50hz:

4128 RMS @ .25ohm/14.4v

3168 RMS @ .5ohm/14.4v

2304 RMS @ 1ohm/14.4v

1161 RMS @ 2ohm/14.4v

586 RMS @ 4ohm/14.4

2008 Infininti G35 Seadan

I have 4cuft gross to go with as far as an enclosure.

Which sub set up should I go with?

(4) sa8's in a 4th order blowthru via ski hole

(1) 15" Ascendant Audio Havoc D2 ported

(2) 10" SKAR D4 in 4th order via ski hole

(1) XCON 15" D2 ported

(1) IA Death Penalty 15" D2 ported

The cheapest route is the 2 10" SKARS followed by the AA havoc 15".

This is a factory bose system and I will be upgrading my electrical with the big 3, and XS Power D1200 in the back. Duralast Gold is already in the front. Stock alt= 110 amps.

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[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

out of those choices the AA 15''

 

[Dirtrider4eva 10+ year member]

pretty nice power there.

id go with the AA as well.

but it depends if you want punchy or the deep growly bass.

the SA 8s will punch and get low, but the AA will carry nicely.

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Oh yeah, my goals. I'm looking to go low but be loud and clean at the same time. I've been leaning twords the AA, but you never hear much about them on this site. I value the insight of a lot of you here and just want to make the right choice. Thanks guys.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'd do XCON or AA ported.

 

[Dirtrider4eva 10+ year member]

Xcons ive heard are just great all around subs... cant go wrong.

 

[BnGRacing 10+ year member]

Oh yeah, my goals. I'm looking to go low but be loud and clean at the same time. I've been leaning twords the AA, but you never hear much about them on this site. I value the insight of a lot of you here and just want to make the right choice. Thanks guys.

Ditch the amp...

You'll never see anywhere near that power unless you upgrade the alternator...which will die rather quickly anyway trying to feed that amp while charging two batteries. Not good.

You want clean while getting loud? IDMax in a vented box tuned around 38hz running off a 500w amp. Your stock charging system will be able to handle that and it should get loud enough to scare your neighbors. Forget the "Big 3", more times than not its a waste of time and money as the power & ground wires are very short runs.

You want shake the Earth SQ? That's easy...you need a pair of 15" woofers IB running off 2-300w. You'll keep most of your trunk space and it will still get pretty loud. the SSA DCON subs or Acoustic Elegance look like they'd fit that bill quite nicely. Maybe pick up one of those Arc Minis to run them and stuff it somewhere out of sight.

There's lots of ways to do this but I wouldn't recommend a big dirty 4kW Class-D. You'll spend $800-1k on electrical just so you can feed an amp that probably doesn't sound good to begin with. **** that...

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

Ditch the amp...
You'll never see anywhere near that power unless you upgrade the alternator...which will die rather quickly anyway trying to feed that amp while charging two batteries. Not good.

You want clean while getting loud? IDMax in a vented box tuned around 38hz running off a 500w amp. Your stock charging system will be able to handle that and it should get loud enough to scare your neighbors. Forget the "Big 3", more times than not its a waste of time and money as the power & ground wires are very short runs.

You want shake the Earth SQ? That's easy...you need a pair of 15" woofers IB running off 2-300w. You'll keep most of your trunk space and it will still get pretty loud. the SSA DCON subs or Acoustic Elegance look like they'd fit that bill quite nicely. Maybe pick up one of those Arc Minis to run them and stuff it somewhere out of sight.

There's lots of ways to do this but I wouldn't recommend a big dirty 4kW Class-D. You'll spend $800-1k on electrical just so you can feed an amp that probably doesn't sound good to begin with. **** that...

while i agree that he wot see that kinda power continuously that is a good amp for any of those choices.and the alt doesnt burn up by just adding batts. if that were true my alt would be gone by now and im pushing close to 3k for power. trick there is to have enough reserve as to not drain the batts before a low amperage draw where the batts can be recharged. he might want to up the batt size to a group 31 like the xs d3100 but he should be fine.

as fro the sq part he wants clean music not comp sq. which all of these subs can hold there own fine

an ditch the big three that had to be the most ignorant statement. the big three is proven to help electrical systems after all electricity does take the path of least resistance and if u can lower the resistance u up the flow of current

 

[BnGRacing 10+ year member]

while i agree that he wot see that kinda power continuously that is a good amp for any of those choices.and the alt doesnt burn up by just adding batts. if that were true my alt would be gone by now and im pushing close to 3k for power. trick there is to have enough reserve as to not drain the batts before a low amperage draw where the batts can be recharged. he might want to up the batt size to a group 31 like the xs d3100 but he should be fine.
as fro the sq part he wants clean music not comp sq. which all of these subs can hold there own fine

an ditch the big three that had to be the most ignorant statement. the big three is proven to help electrical systems after all electricity does take the path of least resistance and if u can lower the resistance u up the flow of current

The point I was trying to make is that you can get pretty loud and sound pretty good without 4,000 watts. In a

Most people don't know what they need and only have a vague idea of what they want. The OP saying he wants to keep the factory sound system and only add some bass leads me to believe he'd be really happy with the suggestions I gave.

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

I'll be replacing my front stage with hats, therefore, I will be adding an additional amp for those. Sorry I didn't mention that earlier, but didn't think to include that since I'm talking about subs here. I'm keeping the Bose/navi hu because it's pretty much the brain of the car. I won't be going IB because my backseat isn't a fold down, and the back support of the seat is pretty much solid metal with a few small holes here and there. I will be removin the factory sub in the rear deck to help allow sound to enter the cabin. I'm almost certain that I will be going with the AA, and if not that, the DP since it's on sale temporarily. As far as the battery, I was thinking a D1200 or D3400. If there's a possibilty that I will be close on the electrical, I will just go ahead and spring for the D3400. Thanks for the insight guys.

 

[slvrado28z 10+ year member]

get the dp its on sale till the end of month

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Ok, after several attempts of running numbers and multiple measurements, I'm not going to have enough room for a Death Penalty 15". The port area optimal for the sub is too large, therefore making the port longer, thus total port displacement taking up more space in my limited amount of available enclosure space dropping the total cuft of the box itself. If I were to use a 6" aero, that wouldnt be enough port area for what I want to run. Also I would have to bend the port in the box which I don't know how I would do that unless a regular 90 degree PVC elbows will fit with that ABS plastic. So right now my options are:

Death Row15"

AA Havoc 15"

Death Penalty 12"

My biggest challenge is that with the limited space in my trunk, I'm having to conform to the angled back out of my seat to maximize what space I do have. And with the angled back of the enclosure, that presents problems for me as far as porting with a slot port, or a (1) common wall square port due to having to bend the port against the angled back.

The AA 15" will be close ported as far as minimum dimensions, but my space available will be perfectly fine if I were to go sealed with this sub. I just don't know how I feel about a sealed enclosure with any sub.

The Death Row 15" will be fine for the numbers I have right now and will be a little cheaper than the AA.

The Death Penalty 12" is a step down in cone area and will be cost more than the Death Row and the A. But, this sub will handle more power than the other 2. I'm really unsure of the trade off here.

 

[Heeltoeclutch 10+ year member]

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[TheUnderFighter 10+ year member]

With that electrical, and a goal of keeping charging up high, I wouldn't expect to run any lower than 1ohm, so, you have about 2300w at hand with that train of thought. I just heard a pair of Skar 10's yesterday off of an AP1800 and they really dug low, and pounded. Great back massage, and I could feel them trying to hair trick with my short *** hair. So I'm partial to those, though I don't think they could handle 2300w a pair. Maybe though, if you're sure to never clip them. After all, I am feeding my SA-10 1200w no problem.

And what about the XCON? I think it'd handle the most power out of the rest of the options... if you are looking to run at 1ohm.

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Nice ride. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Thanks!