Which brands produce a nice sound quality sub?

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Like they say whatever tickles your pickle

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

My gf likes spicy dill pickles. I don't know.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Like they say whatever tickles your pickle

And, you have the vomit to prove it!

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

And, you have the vomit to prove it!

Have you ever had Vlasic Original Dills! The best bro, but not slices.

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

It's going to be my first sound quality set-up, and I hope it turns out pretty good.

Audiofrog GB12 is the best sounding sub i've ever heard. SSA and Sundown sound like muddy SPL subs in comparison

If you want sacrifice a little bit of SQ for some more output then Adire Audio Brahma and IDMax aren't bad options either

It's going to be my first sound quality set-up, and I hope it turns out pretty good. I'm going to start by getting subs and a amp. Do you all have any suggestions at which brands I should be looking at?

For actual proper SQ (which most people confuse with SPL brands that can sound ok with good tuning) your looking at brands like mosconi, audison, morel, zapco, hertz, audiofrog.....ect

A huge component of SQ is using a DSP for tuning and runnning the door speakers active (don't use the stock crossover boxes)

 

[Dafaseles]

I know you said you where kind of limited to 10's, but these Stereo Integrity 12's are said to be designed for high quality output in small enclosures. Also, the QTS of these subs suggest they perform better in sealed applications and the manufacturer specs only call for 1 cube per sub.
It doesn't come in a 10 though, only draw back

SQL Series – StereoIntegrity.com

stereointegrity.com

 

[Gatorade]

Is the SSA Icon a decent upgrade from the American Bass XFL?

Edit: disregard this question. Now I'm looking into Audiofrog, Stereo integrity, adire, and ID max. Thanks for suggestions guys. I feel like I'm on the right track now.

 

[Gatorade]

Audiofrog GB12 is the best sounding sub i've ever heard. SSA and Sundown sound like muddy SPL subs in comparison

If you want sacrifice a little bit of SQ for some more output then Adire Audio Brahma and IDMax aren't bad options either

For actual proper SQ (which most people confuse with SPL brands that can sound ok with good tuning) your looking at brands like mosconi, audison, morel, zapco, hertz, audiofrog.....ect

A huge component of SQ is using a DSP for tuning and runnning the door speakers active (don't use the stock crossover boxes)

Thank you for the info. Now I have a better idea of what to look at. Thanks!

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

I've always wondered how one defines a SQ sub. A sub's job is to play low notes. It's not like a speaker where you expect words to be clean and clear. Honest question really.

Note: Normally, I'd be worried about thread-jacking, but I can't hold a candle to the pickle talk.

 

[Gatorade]

I know you said you where kind of limited to 10's, but these Stereo Integrity 12's are said to be designed for high quality output in small enclosures. Also, the QTS of these subs suggest they perform better in sealed applications and the manufacturer specs only call for 1 cube per sub.
It doesn't come in a 10 though, only draw back

SQL Series – StereoIntegrity.com

stereointegrity.com

Thanks man, I knew I was over looking some great options. Thanks!

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

I've always wondered how one defines a SQ sub. A sub's job is to play low notes. It's not like a speaker where you expect words to be clean and clear. Honest question really.

Main difference is SQ subs aren't nearly as peaky and have little to no distortion. End result is having clarity and fidelity while being able to hear every single frequency of the song nice and clear which is what most SPL subs lack.

Not all low notes are created equal. It's like saying both cars are technically 400 horsepower while ignoring that the inferior car has worst tires, worst transmission, and is running stock suspension. You can't just say "uhh well there both cars and both go fast right ?"

It's not like a speaker where you expect words to be clean and clear.

Being clean, clear, and accurate is literally the whole point of a SQ sub. I'm confused as to why you think those attributes apply to a door speaker but not a subwoofer ?

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

Being clean, clear, and accurate is literally the whole point of a SQ sub. I'm confused as to why you think those attributes apply to a speaker but not a subwoofer ?

Are you actually confused or do you think you sound smart? You don't recognize there's a difference in the way our ears and brain process words/speech verses bass?

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

You don't recognize there's a difference in the way our ears and brain process words/speech verses bass?

No i'm fully aware but it doesn't change what I said. Those attributes you listed (accurate, clean, clear) are still prevalent regardless if it's bass or words. It might not be as harsh or quite as prevalent but it's still there (your brain processing the frequency different doesn't mean those attributes are no longer exist or aren't noticeable)

 

[Kickstand Premium Member]

I'm DD guy my self but not everyone shares my enthusiasm for them.
Out of your list I would say FI. For the price they are great subs.
That being said you can have the greatest subs in the world but if your box is not right you might as well put a bazooka tube back there.

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

I'm DD guy my self but not everyone shares my enthusiasm for them.
Out of your list I would say FI. For the price they are great subs.
That being said you can have the greatest subs in the world but if your box is not right you might as well put a bazooka tube back there.

Too bad DD isn't what they once were but I still have about 30 DD original subs to keep me busy

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

Too bad DD isn't what they once were but I still have about 30 DD original subs to keep me busy

Don't know what you mean by this.

There speaker catalog is better now (including more Neo options), there famous powertuned subwoofer series has not only gone through 2 more revisions but allows now for more custom options, and there famous M series amplifiers are still over-built korean amps.

DD has gotten better with age

 

[Kickstand Premium Member]

Too bad DD isn't what they once were but I still have about 30 DD original subs to keep me busy

Maybe not 30 but I have a few laying around myself
Couple of 2512's, couple of 3512's
A stack of amps from that era and beyond (Theres a RF power 800a2 somewhere collecting dust in my basement)
Right now I'm building a box for my 3510 (dual 2) witch I'm going to run with an old M1d
I have a storage space under my stairs that's just older car audio but I'd trade it all to be able to put a aftermarket HU in.
Stupid new cars, nothing sounds as good after you have it running off an 8 volt eclipse.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Don't know what you mean by this.

There speaker catalog is better now (including more Neo options), there famous powertuned subwoofer series has not only gone through 2 more revisions but allows now for more custom options, and there famous M series amplifiers are still over-built korean amps.

DD has gotten better with age

I'm also not a huge fan of the direction they're going with the 95xx series, but that's likely what the market demands. I'd still have high expectations from their American made lineup and the 99XX is probably the only in production 4" coil woofer I'd consider running.

As to the OP, you should be able to make almost anything play flat from 20-80hz if you build a proper box, take some time playing with location/orientation in the car, and use EQ and time alignment. Kicker Solo X won SQ competitions in the past. You shouldn't need to pay a grand for a 600W sub to get the job done. More important would be to decide how loud you're trying to get and precisely how much space you're willing to invest in this and plan around those factors. Already several serviceable options mentioned here. FWIW I'd also vouch for Adire lineup. They are a solid product.

Lastly, I grew a pile of cukes this summer and put up a whole bunch of pickles from the garden. They grow like weeds and pickles aren't rocket science to make. Anybody with a couple yards of garden space and some chicken **** for fertilizer should give it a whirl.

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

I'm also not a huge fan of the direction they're going with the 95xx series, but that's likely what the market demands. I'd still have high expectations from their American made lineup and the 99XX is probably the only in production 4" coil woofer I'd consider running.

Powertuned, M series, and Neo are all amazing from DD. That user I originally quoted is stuck in the whole "ohh back in my day things where better" when that's not true with DD.

He's complained before that there trash now because they have a chinese line (redline) but that's completely irrelevant because the redline is not only solid but was designed for a price bracket that literally did not exist (redline is in no competition with any of the USA lines).

FWIW I'd also vouch for Adire lineup. They are a solid product.

I actually like both the Brahma and Tumult more than the famous JBL WGTI series. Adire is rock solid

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

Powertuned, M series, and Neo are all amazing from DD. That user I originally quoted is stuck in the whole "ohh back in my day things where better" when that's not true with DD.

He's complained before that there trash now because they have a chinese line (redline) but that's completely irrelevant because the redline is not only solid but was designed for a price bracket that literally did not exist (redline is in no competition with any of the USA lines).

I actually like both the Brahma and Tumult more than the famous JBL WGTI series. Adire is rock solid

I wouldn't call them trash because they use Chinese build houses ..Alpine has for years and im sure many other good subs even some of the better Kicker ..but DD is just far from the quality it once was ..the Competition Lanes are proof of that ...90% of these SPL trophies and plaques were won with older DD subs not one was with newer DD subs ...all pre 2004 were won with American made Lanzar and JBL subs but that was SQ non SPL ... Not saying that DD is the best by any means but they didn't let me down...